I know it’s .ml where such things happen but ffs! This guy needs to fucking chill 🤦

  • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
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    9 months ago

    worldnews at .ml is a dumpster fire. First community I had to completely scrub from my instance because it was just so toxic from top to bottom.

    Edit: Also, will share my last comment there before I self-banned and purged that cesspit from my instance. This is in reply to someone making a fat joke about Kim Jong Un:

    Good 'ol ambiguous Rule 1 lol

    • XEAL@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Fucking mods, this is Reddit all over again.

      And fuck off whoever that tells me again to set up my own instance. What I want is popular instance admins and mods to pull out the stick out of their asses, because free speech instances that get defederated at the speed of light are of no use.

      And there’s no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.

      /rant

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        0·
        9 months ago

        And there’s no seamless multiaccount Lemmy client yet.

        …except all of them. At least for Android.

        Here’s the one’s I’ve used with seamless multiaccount functionality: Liftoff (RIP), Jerboa, Thunder, Connect, Boost, and Voyager

        Sync too, but I only used it briefly because fuck ads.

    • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
      1·
      9 months ago

      I tried to give that instance the benefit of the doubt at first, but I just block all lemmy.ml communities when I see them now. There’s just too much user and ideology overlap with lemmygrad and hexbear. The worldnews sub was especially bad though. Disinformation & insults everywhere, but they’re never removed despite reports, because they’re part of their side & agenda. It’s basically lemmygrad in disguise.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      01·
      9 months ago

      They seem fairly chill as far as I can tell. Its some of the long time users that are the problem

      • poVoq@slrpnk.netEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Until you realize some of these long time users are likely sockpuppet accounts of said devs.

        But I find it rather funny and in the end their political believes while themselves sitting right in the “imperial core” are harmless. Armchair tankies.

        • Wrench@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          It is pretty exhausting fighting their subtle tankie arguments over and over, lest someone more impressionable only see their bullshit and believe it.

            • Wrench@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              9 months ago

              Rofl. I was wondering why I couldn’t see the other reply to you, and realized it might because I already blocked that user. Went to incognito, and yep, blocked that rabid user a while ago.

              I recommend doing the same. I forgot “Global South” was even a term used here.

            • masquenox@lemmy.worldEnglish
              01·
              9 months ago

              I am really tired to hear “Global South” over and over again.

              We are perfectly aware that beneficiaries of colonisation (like you) would like us here in the Global South to just shut up and give you our resources and labour for absolutely nothing - so there’s no need to say the quiet part out loud, okay?

              • maynarkh@feddit.nlEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                Lol, I grew up on a Russian colony. Was not fun.

                That said, my thing with “Global South” is that it pretends the country with the highest GDP in the world is an “underdog”, and it tries to sell that through its supposed tight alliance with its less fortunate members. By what measure is China or Russia “the South”? Maybe it’s just them trying to sell that they are so oppressed.

                And their alliance is so tight that Putin wasn’t allowed on the latest BRICS summit because ZA thought their ties with the ICC are more important than Putin.

                It’s just an “actually, we are the victims” circlejerk, based on some fragile semi-alliances and pretending that China is not absolutely dominating the whole thing.

                • masquenox@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  01·
                  9 months ago

                  By what measure is China or Russia “the South”?

                  Russia certainly was after the fall of the USSR - whether it still is is open to debate. China is an active exploiter of the “Global South” - which kind of means the concept is overdue for an update.

                  ZA thought their ties with the ICC are more important

                  Nahh, they didn’t want another repeat of the al-Bashir debacle. South Africa’s ANC regime will bend over backwards for the west and especially western corporations - but the US forgot that they will only do so behind closed doors.

              • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                We are perfectly aware that beneficiaries of colonisation (like you)

                Pretty sure that the guy you’re talking to is from a small country somewhere in Eastern Europe.

  • aleph@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    I was also banned from worldnews@lemmy.ml and had comments removed for “Re-enforcing neo-liberal cultural hegemony” and “Believes in objectivity in media lmao”.

    My offense? Saying that a report sourced solely from an eye-witness account via Al-Jazeera regarding another massacre of civilians and aid workers in Gaza needed to be corroborated by further evidence before we regard it as hard fact. The irony is I’m very much pro-Palestinan.

    According to the mods, however, that apparently means I have to throw all media literacy out of the window and blindly accept any anti-Israel claims without question.

    • Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      I start almost every comment I make on those instances with

      I know this will net me a ban

      to play a bit of reverse psychology with the mods there, who don’t touch my comments when the denizens there inevitablely say

      Oh yeah you think you’re so smart well we don’t ban opposing opinions unlike some places

      And the mods there have their hands tied because banning me would prove their own guys wrong.

      It’s worked pretty well so far.

    • Railcar8095@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      There’s such a polarization and paranoia that any comment that’s not 100% unwavering support is considered an attack.

    • gigachad@feddit.deEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      That community is wild, but the discussion over Gaza over there is fucking crazy. Al Jazeera is one of their more credible sources, you can find articles from websites nobody every heard of, small blogs that state IDF soldiers are eating babies. And that is no exaggeration, that was the last thing I read before I left that community…

      • aleph@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Exactly what prompted me to comment, since the blog that sourced Al-Jazeera also added certain details that didn’t seem based on anything like actual evidence. Although I admit it wasn’t anything near as extreme as the IDF canibalizing babies.

        If we must call out pro-Israel propaganda that makes outrageous, unsubstantiated claims like that, we must do the same for pro-Palestinian propaganda, regardless of how we personally feel about the conflict.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.netEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    The irony of a communist banning someone over “McCarthyism” when what the banned user said was not even close to McCarthyism, making the mod action itself McCarthyism.

    They’ve become the very thing they hate!

  • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    Usually I hop in these threads ready to tell people why they deserve to be banned, but dang. There is nothing wrong, ethically or factually, in what you said.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafeEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      One of their mods banned me for pointing out that Chiang Kai-Shek genocided the communists in China before the Long March. Sometimes they hurt themselves in their confusion.

    • alcoholicorn@lemmy.mlEnglish
      01·
      9 months ago

      Not saying he should have been banned, but factually it was wrong, the FRG was mostly staffed by “former” Nazis. A lot of Germans saw it that way, see Baader-Meinhof.

      Also it’s disingenuous to call one of the biggest arms manufacturers who supplied arms to some of the worst regimes, Israel, Sudan, Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Russia “pacifist”.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Sure would be nice if your instance would allow you to rebut op with your view of the situation rather than scrub their comment and ban them. Lemmy needs more content to grow and over active jannies don’t help on that front.

  • TexMexBazooka@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    All of the .ml instances are absolutely Russian psyops and you can’t change my mind

    (I jest… mostly…)

    • GluWu@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      I’m convinced they’re US psyops to make communists look like idiots. I don’t agree with most of communism, but I can respect people with different views. But the tankies on Lemmy are doing such a hard double dutch rudder on China and Russia they can’t be real. Nobody is that stupid, right? And then I remember how many people are going to vote for trump. Yes, the world really is this stupid all around. Idiots are taking over. The stupid people are breeding. Nationalists that feel it’s their duty to populate the homeland.

      • fuckingkangaroos@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        You’re right that they aren’t real communists, that’s a mask they wear to spread Kremlin and CCP propaganda.

        The idea that they’re run by the US government is ridiculous, they’re full of hateful anti-Western content.

      • Mastengwe@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Tankies on lemmy are absolutely that stupid. I argue with them all the time. And like OP, I get posts removed and banned often. Across several accounts.

        • bitwaba@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          Across several accounts

          I choose to believe those tankies are doing the same, and it’s just one tankie you’re arguing with. In fact all tankies arguments on Lemmy are just at argument between you and other said tankie dude on new accounts.

      • Kedly@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Yeah, its the stark advocating of minority rights/protection on one hand and the intense jerking off of dictators with the other that breaks my brain with Tankies

      • BennyHill500@lemmy.mlEnglish
        01·
        9 months ago

        I dont know anybody on .ml, lemmygrad or hexbear who supports russia, i really dont know where the lib world people got that strawman from.

      • Mastengwe@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        But they’re not useful at all. Even to the cause. They just make the whole agenda seem mindless and smug.

  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    This is the comment and of course toothy banned me for 3 days too.

    Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦

    • maynarkh@feddit.nlEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Just like they did for “sinophobia” when I expressed misgivings about Chinese and Hungarian cops joining forces 🤦

      Just love the thing where they twist any criticism of the Chinese state into perceived hate for Chinese people, but are so apprehensive when Israel tries to do the same. It’s reprehensible.

    • Admiral Patrick@dubvee.orgEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      That’s like that meme post from a few years ago where it’s like (paraphrased):

      Person 1: “I can’t stand homophobes”

      Person 2: How dare you insult Christians like that.

      Person 1: I never said “Christians”. You jumped on that grenade all by yourself.

    • lennybird@lemmy.worldEnglish
      01·
      9 months ago

      Yeah that’s some petty bullshit.

      Side note but I really appreciate the mod log feature.

  • menixator@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    I was banned for “Rule 4” which, by digging through their rules (which weren’t as easy to find as I expected it to be) I learnt that it was “Illegal content”. I literally never posted a comment, post or had ANY kind of interaction on lemmy before. THIS would be my first comment.

    • harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Something similar happened to me with a community on hexbear. Never posted but I already had a ban. The mods must have seen a comment or something on a different community on the instance. Some of the mods there are just as think skinned as on ml.

    • Natanael@slrpnk.netEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      I had a post made up of almost exclusively links to news sources (to back up a previous claim) removed due to being “uncivil”

    • Faresh@lemmy.mlEnglish
      01·
      9 months ago

      The rules are generally on the sidebar of the community or instance (depending on if you want to know the rules of the community or instance).

  • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
    1·
    9 months ago

    I have had my comment removed and/or banned from the ml worldnews for “misinformation” for debunking Russian propaganda with sources.

      • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
        1·
        9 months ago

        Who is “we”?

        The lemmy devs run lemmy.ml. They’re kind of…out there, politically.

        The lead dev, dessalines, has material like:

        https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq.html

        Admitted to supporting and arming Neo-Nazis and other ultra-nationalist groups like the Azov battalion in Ukraine to overthrow it’s former pro-Russia govt, 2. Ukraine now has a pro-US, nazi-glorifying government with ultranationalism, anti-semitism, neo-nazi pogroms, and attacks on LGBT groups.

        Dessalines is in the “we need the Soviet Union back and Stalin is awesome” camp. He was using a picture of Stalin as his profile picture for a while.

        • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
          1·
          9 months ago

          Like complaining about attacks on LGBT people while supporting Russia and the USSR seems just the most hypocritical thing I can think of. Does he not know Stalin mandated a 5 year minimum forced labor sentence in Siberia for being gay and Russia today is only mildly better for LGBT people.

          • tal@lemmy.todayEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            Frankly, I think that complaining that a government headed by a Jewish guy is anti-semitic is even more bonkers.

            That being said, I’m sure that dessalines didn’t originate that himself – that’s apparently big in Russia’s propaganda.

            Lavrov, Russia’s foreign minister, rather infamously had a quote shortly after the start of the invasion, when asked about the whole “how anti-Semitic can Ukrainians be if they chose to elect a Jewish president” thing:

            https://www.npr.org/2022/05/02/1095926607/lavrov-israel-zelenskyy-hitler

            Lavrov was asked about Russia’s claim that it had invaded Ukraine to “denazify” the country, which has a democratically-elected Jewish president.

            “So when they say ‘How can Nazification exist if we’re Jewish?’ In my opinion, Hitler also had Jewish origins, so it doesn’t mean absolutely anything,” he told the station in Russian, referring to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s religion, according to the Associated Press. “For some time we have heard from the Jewish people that the biggest antisemites were Jewish.”

            • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              9 months ago

              Nazi and fascist have different meanings in Russia. They mean people working against the interests of Russia, it originates from the USSR. For example the gay community was labeled fascist during the soviet occupation here.

        • Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          01·
          9 months ago

          TBF the Azov Battalion is a real neo nazi us funded (through Ukraine support) group… So… Not entirely wrong?

          • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            Sure. You can find ideologically opposite militias fighting for Ukraine too, though. Zelensky is in charge and he’s obviously not a Nazi. He’s a Jewish guy who really wants to save Ukraine as it is and is completely willing to go full Western-progressive to do it. Singling Azov out without the context is basically a propaganda technique.

            Also, Russia is acting a bit like Nazis from the very highest levels, except a shittier more openly corrupt version.

          • FluffyPotato@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            9 months ago

            Oh, yea, the Ukrain military has a bit of a nazi problem but the time to deal with that is not when you are being invaded. Also the nazi talking point is mostly a red herring anyways since the nazi problem in Russia is magnitudes worse and isn’t limited to their military.

            So it’s technically not wrong but tankies don’t really have a problem with nazies, otherwise they wouldn’t be defending Russia, they are anti USA and will side with anything that’s even close to that side with no regards to any other belief. I’m not a fan of the US either but I’m not going to blindly support anything against it either.

  • FiniteBanjo@lemmy.todayEnglish
    0·
    9 months ago

    I hate when they don’t even say what comment was removed, you just have to search for it through your post history and hit edit to view the original.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      9 months ago

      Instances operated by pro-Russian or pro-BRIC individuals/groups that have no interest in dissenting opinion and often spill out into the rest of the fediverse posting anti-western propaganda.