Worth noting, she no longer supports a single payer system for the US.
so what’s the alternative and why is it worse?
The alternative is to stick with the ACA as it is now. It’s worse because insurance marketplaces cost more and create inefficiency compared to a single payer system. More people could have access to less expensive healthcare with a single-payer system.
Does that make sense?
i see thanks
Public option. It’s basically the government will sell you Medicare (at best), likely subsidized to your financial needs. And it’s worse because it’s easier for insurance companies to lobby to gut and privatize. Single payer means everyone just has government insurance in the same way we all have access to firefighting services. You pay a tax for it yes, but the efficiency comes from there only needing to be one of this thing.
It’s crazy to me that saying anything negative is seen as non support, or support for the other. Fuck Trump, but I think keeping leaders in transparency and countering misinformation is important.
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I mean yea keeping people honest is always good. That being said I feel like you either misconstrued what they were asking or just sidestepped what they asked all together.
I’m allowed to voice discourse without having an alternative solution.
You can recognize something is wrong without knowing how fix it.
I mean once again yea sure, but you may want to just dial back the combativeness a tad. Not trying to start a blood feud or anything here was just pointing out something. You could have also led in to their question with that you didn’t know a better solution and explained yourself somewhat more clearly.
We can assume she’ll just follow the establishment policies enacted under Biden - basically nothing.
“I’m Kamala Harris and I approve this message.”
Not. Unfortunately.
Wish she would
I will never understand Americans who don’t want health care. You like paying those insane bills? I wave a magic green card and all but my parking is covered by and large. My health card is far from perfect but mostly we get what we need.
They have this weird idea that life is a zero sum game so that if someone else gains something, they will lose something. Republicans usually dig into this with fear-mongering about how Democrats want them to pay for abortions and Trans-gender surgeries or how their Healthcare will be worse.
and even people who have nothing to lose are afraid of this shit. so clearly it’s not rational. it’s the concept of precarity, it’s the malthusian crab bucket mind virus.
Don’t forget the illegal immigrants. Just a constant threat to your life and existence that can’t really be measured. They’re here illegally… so… we can’t really count them. If we could, they’d all be arrested and deported. It’s perfect. Just a constant existential threat you cant prove doesn’t exist. Like Satan. I guess it’s no coincidence that most of them are also probably very religious and believe anything with zero proof.
They are convinced that it will raise their taxes so much it will cost them more. And that it will cause the healthcare system to be inefficient and cause longer wait times and that the government will have “death panels” and decide who gets to live and die.
“Why would I pay the government to collect everyone’s money and use it to fund other people’s medical expenses when I’m healthy? I’d much rather pay a private insurance company to collect everyone’s money and use it to partially fund other people’s medical expenses while profiting off of the rest! It just makes sense.”
That’s the problem with America. It’s all me me me, instead of us. This is why the country is the way it is.
I had this argument with my parents and even after showing them proof and numbers it just turned around to illegal immigrants and what ever other BS that they parrot from Fox News. It really makes me sad to know they don’t think for themselves or bother to cross check anything anymore
I wish.
republican-propaganda!kamala is so much better than real!kamala.
Seriously. I wish she was about half as good as they say she is!
This is a regular thing in right wing media. They make these wild statements before the election then after the election when it doesn’t come to pass they blame the person they made the false accusations against.
2008: “Obama is going to take your money and spread the wealth”. 2012: “These stupid Democrats thought Obama was going to spread the wealth”I mean, I hope she does, lol.
Also. I’m confident that while the “accusation” is something of an exaggeration- she is going to try and push through solutions; and that’s better than what the repugnants are gonna do.
But Harris opposes Medicare For All.
Unfortunately this is a false accusation.
if we don’t give harris a blue congress, absolutely nothing will get done for at least two years.
and, next-to-nothing will get done without 60+ in the senate, which i don’t think could even happen til mid-terms.
big enough majorities in congress to get the good stuff through is 4-6 years out. once the republicants are out, they cannot be let back in.
if m4a did happen to land on a president harris’ desk for a signature, i have zero doubts about her signing it.
I can’t decide between honestly pointing out Harris and Walz’ flaws, and ignoring them during discourse so as to increase her chance of victory.
Do the latter, and after the election do the former.
if m4a did happen to land on a president harris’ desk for a signature, i have zero doubts about her signing it.
From the second link:
Sanders immediately challenged Harris’ description of her plan as proper Medicare for All.
“I like Kamala. She’s a friend of mine, but her plan is not Medicare for All,” Sanders told CNN ahead of the debates. “What Medicare for All understands is that health care is a human right and the function of a sane health care system is not to make sure that insurance companies and drug companies make tens of billions of dollars in profit.”
A senior policy adviser to Sanders called Harris’ rejiggered plan “bad policy” and “bad politics,” warning it “vastly expands the ability for private insurance corporations to profit from over-billing and denying care to vulnerable patients who need it the most.”
And from the same link, I’m going to agree with the Trump campaign on this one:
“Kamala Harris’ spokespeople are once again alleging she has flip flopped on her positions – this time saying she no longer supports socialist Medicare for All,” Trump campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt said on Wednesday, calling on Harris “to explain why she is running from every liberal policy she has ever supported.”
Yeah. I’m gonna vote for her, but no part of me thinks I’m going to see police reform, m4a, etc from her, and it makes me sad because these are long cycles, and I have to imagine I’ll be near dead of old age before we’ve got much chance of the kind of change I feel like we had the chance for coming out of 2020. She portrayed herself as a lot more progressive in 2020, and plenty of people called her on it then when considered against the backdrop of her pre-Senatorial record.
if congress managed to get their shit together and pass historic legislation establishing m4a, no way would harris veto it. not a fucking chance.
If congress managed to get their shit together, I still don’t think that they could possibly do it without the support of the President before it gets to her desk. If she doesn’t want it, there is zero percent chance it ever gets there. (IMO)
She raised her hand in favor in the 2020 primary, she’ll never be able to undo that
She’s since capitulated to the health insurance leech industry, though:
Harris, who has had shifting stances on health care in the past, confirmed in late July through her campaign that she no longer supports a single-payer health care system.
a lot can change in 4 years. did anybody really see democrats running for labor issues before biden took office? they’re campaigning at union events. that was unthinkable just a couple of cycles ago.
universal healthcare is insanely popular. they could get there. remember that picking a president is also about picking who you want to fight against. it’s certainly more likely for Harris to listen to public opinion than it is for The Blob.
It doesn’t matter what she has done or said since. That was her loudest moment on the issue before this campaign and it’s what most Americans remember. Undoing that statement is basically impossible. Especially for anybody who is already skeptical of her.
Of course she can. Politicians change their minds all the time.
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I believe it was an interview on Kimmel that I just watched where she indicated she absolutely is for Medicare For All, not opposed.
Edit: well, I cannot for the life of me find this interview.
