• Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      163·
      1 month ago

      Not knowing how anything works, being scared by errors that you don’t know how to get around or deal with, not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly, wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?

      naah thanks mate, hard pass.

      • m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world
        211·
        1 month ago

        Not knowing how anything works

        I mean, that’s how you start learning stuff - not knowing how something works

        Being scared by errors that you don’t know how to get around or deal with

        Isn’t that the case for every OS in existence? When something breaks, you don’t know how to deal with it. Enter google/ddg/whatever

        Not knowing alternatives for your former favourite apps to do things quickly

        See point 1 - and yet there are Linux apps that let you do things quicker than Windows stuff. I can’t imagine myself at this point having to use frigging photoshop to crop or add a border to a image when you could do that with a ´magick -crop´

        Wondering if you get the peripherals you currently own to run?

        Wasn’t that the whole point of live images? Not that they will charge you for downloading them. And hardware support is infinitely better today than back in the day. Just look at what the folks at asahi did - that’s nothing short of incredible

        • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          31·
          1 month ago

          My brother in penguin computers, that wasn’t a negative post. I just mentioned all the things to point out that switching OS can be really hard and the first time getting to Linux ain’t all sunshine and rainbows. 😉

          Really just needs one problem with some necessity you can’t fix to screw up the whole experience. Doesn’t even have to be Linux’ fault; just thinking about god damn printers…

      • Jesus_666@lemmy.world
        8·
        1 month ago

        Tossing Gentoo onto an old Pentium III box, typing emerge world and coming back four hours later to see if it’s done was awesome.

        And no, it wasn’t done compiling KDE yet.

        But I definitely wouldn’t want to experiment with Linux on my only PC with no way to look things up if I break networking (or the whole system). Thankfully, this is no longer an issue in the age of smartphones.

      • NOPper@lemmy.world
        6·
        1 month ago

        I feel like this supporting Windows servers and navigating Win 11/12 clients at work these days.

        • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 month ago

          Yes, but Windows is normal and therefore all of its myriad problems are just part-and-parcel with using a computer and can be ignored. Linux is not normal, though, so the slightest roadbump is an instant deal-breaker.

      • Psythik@lemmy.world
        23·
        1 month ago

        There’s also the fact that if you have modern hardware, you’ll find that half the features that you paid for don’t work properly in Linux (or at all). It’s a great OS to keep an old PC alive, though.

        • Jesus_666@lemmy.world
          3·
          1 month ago

          That’s less of an issue these days. In the 2000s it was like that, especially since people used all sorts of add-in cards. These days a lot of those cards have merged with the mainboard (networking, sound, USB) or have fallen out of fashion (e.g. TV tuners).

          The mainboard stuff is generally well-supported. The days of the Winmodem are over. The big issues these days are special-purpose hardware (which generally doesn’t work with later Windows versions either), laptops, and Nvidia GPUs (which are getting better).

          • Psythik@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 month ago

            I said what I said because it’s relevant today. I literally had this issue last month with modern hardware, when I couldn’t get HDR working properly in KDE 6 Plasma (colors are washed-out and have no contrast when HDR is on). And features from my GPU are completely missing, like SDR-to-HDR conversion, AI upscaling, and the entire 3D Settings Page (the one where you can change settings not available in-game). When I ask people for help with restoring these features/settings, no one has any idea what I’m talking about. So I gave up and went back to Windows.

            • Jesus_666@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 month ago

              Ah, the old Nvidia problem. It’s true that Nvidia’s Linux driver isn’t very good (although I don’t think their Windows driver is very good either, it just has more features).

              The 3D Settings page is specific to the Nvidia Windows driver. Even an AMD user might’ve been slightly confused (although AMD ships comparable features, just located elsewhere under a different name). This is indeed something the Linux drivers plain don’t have in that form, although I can’t remember the last time I felt a need to really muck around in there.

              Admittedly, overriding game rendering behavior might not even always be possible, seeing that DirectX games are run through a translation layer before the GPU gets to do anything.

              I wasn’t able to find solid info for AI upscaling even on Windows, mainly because of the terrible name of that feature and because Nvidia offers both “AI Upscaling” and “Nvidia Image Scaling” and I have no idea if those are the same thing. The former seems to be specific to the Nvidia SHIELD.

              Unless you’re talking about DLSS, which is supported.

              The HDR one is odd but might again be related to the Nvidia driver not being very good. This should improve in the future but they are admittedly trailing behind.

              • Psythik@lemmy.world
                1·
                1 month ago

                See this is what I mean. You don’t even know what I’m talking about because these features don’t even exist in Linux yet. Thank you for confirming that the 3D Settings page still doesn’t exist. I won’t be switching until it does.

                Furthermore, AI upscaling has nothing do with DLSS or Nvidia Shield. It’s a GPU feature that upscales any video playing on your PC to 4K, whether it be in a video player or your favorite browser of choice. It’s a really neat feature to have (especially for watching older content), and not something I can go without now that I’m used to it. Same goes for SDR-to-HDR conversion. Yes I’m aware that it’s not true HDR, but it’s convincing enough to fool me. YouTube videos look so much better with it on. Whites are whiter and colors really pop. Again, not something I can live without, now that I’m used to it.

                It doesn’t matter to me who’s fault it is; what matters to me is being able to use the features I paid for, and for that reason alone I’m stuck with Windows. Believe me, I really want to switch and get away from all the privacy-invading telemetry, but I can’t just yet.

                • Jesus_666@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  1 month ago

                  This is a case of you having some very specific requirements that can only be met in a certain way, that being Windows in this case. Whether or not a switch makes sense depends on how important those requirements are to you. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.

                  I personally found the ability to override a game’s rendering settings to only be worth it in very few cases but that’s me. But if you use it a lot then you use it a lot.

                  As for AI upscaling, my main issue there is that Nvidia chose a name so generic that it’s hard to google. And then they made a second unrelated feature with a very similar name.

                  There is AI video upscaling for Linux but it probably doesn’t work quite the same way Nvidia’s offering does. That might be a problem or it might not; I admittedly only invested a minute to look it up so I don’t have any details.

                  The same applies to SDR-to-HDR. There seems to be something but it probably doesn’t work like what you currently use.

                  So in the end you’ll have to decide whether you’d be more annoyed by not having those features or by having to use whatever zany shit Microsoft come up with. Not a great decision but that’s life.

                  I personally might have stuck with Windows longer on my desktop if my 4080 hadn’t turned out to be wonky and Nvidia’s driver hadn’t turned out to be so capricious that I had to spend two months ruling out plausible error causes. That drove me back to AMD, which made the switch easy. But again, that’s me and not you.

                • emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de
                  11·
                  1 month ago

                  “I want everything on my computer to look shiny and fake and rendered and if i cant have that with linux then microsoft will just get to keep raping my data. Because when im watching my YOUTUBERS i dont want to see people i want them to look like filtered upscaled animations.”

              • Petter1@lemm.ee
                1·
                1 month ago

                I wonder if he even has the proprietary driver installed using the package manager of his distro and has chosen the right packages for cuda and vulcan or if he just manually installed the proprietary driver via deb file and has still the nouveau/reverse engineered version of cuda and vulcan installed 🤔

          • Midnight Wolf@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 month ago

            Me, with two soundblaster cards (Z, AE-5), and a nvme pcie card (2 drives, raid0) in my main rig, along a 10Gb card sitting on my parts cart: hello.

    • Flax@feddit.ukEnglish
      5·
      1 month ago

      I’m doing that rn. Not the first time as I’ve used it before, but this time as a daily driver.

  • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
    848·
    1 month ago

    The owner of gamingonlinux? The same guy was a mod on the !linux_gaming@lemmy.ml community until they were caught abusing their moderator powers? Who then deleted their account and complained on mastodon that it’s stupid design that mod logs are public? That one? [Screenshot]

    • NotSoMewwo@pawb.socialEnglish
      21·
      1 month ago

      For full context: The mod abuse was a incident between sirsquid (Liam/GamingOnLinux) and ‘go $fsck yourself’ (the person that comments this on every linking to GamingOnLinux.com). The alleged mod abuse is Liam deleting a post by ‘go $fsck yourself’ criticizing the title on one of his articles. Liam later stepped down as moderator.

      Was Liam being a childish? Yeah. Is there a reason why ‘go $fsck yourself’ is being vague about what the mod abuse actually was and to what extent? Probably.

      Incident was at 2024 May 22 Mod Log: https://lemmy.ml/modlog/15063 Screenshot Incident Thread: https://lemmy.ml/post/15894308

      For more context, after Liam stepped down: https://lemmy.ml/post/17376889/11932442

      • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
        62·
        1 month ago

        Very succinct and includes 99% of the situation. Thanks, and well done.

        Only things I would add would be: Being a moderator on lemmy and not knowing that modlogs are public is baffling. That alone really outlines the fact he was unqualified for the role.

        And that it seems pretty obvious the comments were only deleted by him to hide his own. He had already shown an inability to be measured and collected, as well as a poor understanding of the platform from a moderation perspective. Then, his clear disregard for the only rule for the community by lashing out at something that could have been more easily dismissed entirely. He should have just deleted the comment without a response. My mildly stupid comment just did not deserve that kind of reaction.

        It all serves as solid evidence that he was willing to abuse his mod role for something so minor, and a person like that wouldn’t stop there.

        The real cherry on top is how pathetic it is to go to mastodon to complain about the public mod logs on lemmy.

        • NotSoMewwo@pawb.socialEnglish
          9·
          1 month ago

          It was a single small incident out of (assuming) months of moderation and he later stepped down.

          I am asking you to have some empathy, your comments make the situation look like he was being a master manipulator when all he had was an ego problem and a conflict of interest.

          We’re humans, we do stupid things. Just because he is a bad moderator (because many people who get moderator status often end up abusing it) and did a single bad incident shouldn’t invalidate his blog nor it should mean he is an awful person.

          • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            1 month ago

            I’m not sure why you see it as a single incident. It was a series of choices—actions—that outline his overall behavior. I don’t see how a person who shows no empathy towards others, particularly from a position of ‘power’ over them, then refuses to acknowledge their poor behavior should get any empathy themselves.

            It has always been a very easy option, if he wanted, to ameliorate the situation himself. Instead he chose to stick to his choices multiple times.

            You’re not wrong that it could be considered taking the high road to never bring it up. However, too often do people abuse that expectation to avoid consequences and just continue their behaviors. Without acknowledging their own actions there is no evidence that this is just not their own standard of behavior.

    • thesmokingman@programming.dev
      161·
      1 month ago

      Thank you! I was pretty fucking sure there was stupidity related to Liam but could not for the life of me find anything in search.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
      164·
      1 month ago

      Yes, that one. And he still contributes a lot to the Linux community, just in a new form, which is good! Everyone has found their place and is useful to the greater things.

      • go $fsck yourself@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        1 month ago

        He showed everyone here who he really is. There’s no reason to just forget his real self when people keep posting links to his generic gaming blog site instead of the actual source of information.