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Yeah, I’ll just stick with the almond nog. Lol

Acceptable.

No stabs, only pets and scritches. >:(

Usually, yes, but sometimes no. If not and it’s important or I’m curious I’ll ask for clarification. But sometimes I have no idea what they mean, and I’ll say yes because I don’t want them to get frustrated explaining it or it really just isn’t important.

(And then there are the rare cases when I didn’t think it was important, but it was, so now I’m panicking trying to text them when I really need that info…)

It doesn’t get easier once ya turn 100, sonny, let me tell ya.

Imagine the disappointment of going to meet your crab brethren only to discover they’re not actually crabs.

Do you bite your thumb, sir?

Broccoli in Thai curry is the way! So good!

I feel like we maybe shouldn’t give guns to bears

My last time talking to them, they were arguing that the use of the word “exploitation” in the vegan society’s definition of veganism simply meant “use” because that’s a thesaurus entry for exploitation. When their argument breaks down they go full on “words are just invented”.

Yeah, thank you for the clarification. Re-reading my comment, I realise I didn’t do a very good job of expressing this, as I didn’t mean to imply V@LW was a community for debate. Just that a polite question might be fine there, so long as it comes from a genuine desire to learn, instead of trying to make an opening to disagree.

!vegan@lemmy.ml specifically disallows debate style posts. Your best bet is probably either !askvegans@lemmy.ca or !vegan@lemmy.world

When I was a young vegling, I spent some time doing “outreach” on r/DebateAVegan (air quotes because it often felt about as impactful as having a wank), and you’d see those bingo arguments being used earnestly ALL THE TIME.

I actually did occasionally get some fairly novel and thought provoking stuff, from time to time, but mostly it was explaining the basics of biology or econ to people like in OP’s example.

Ah yes. That one is the one where every interlocutor happens to only eat meat “from their uncles farm with 3 cows on 40 acres of pasture, where they’re hand-scrubbed by cherubs while eating figs.”

Ah yeah, I’ve had an interaction with that anti-vegan user before, and let me tell ya, if you want to speedrun vegan bingo… ideal discussion partner right there.

Yeah, sorry 'bout that; that was my bad. I didn’t mention it since you figured out my intent. Looks like me moving my comment might have led to some confused lemmings, though.

Thanks! That’s a big help.

Ok, well I don’t have the book, or links to the studies it’s based on, so that’s not particularly helpful.

I throughly scanned the page for data sources and scholarly papers, and also read some of the major concepts and provided examples. I did not see any further studies or data linked in either of the pages you linked to yourself, but if I did miss something, please feel free to point it out.

Once again, thank you for providing the source data you already did. It’s a fairly complicated dataset, so it’ll take some effort to grok.

I mean, you literally said:

the rest of the information and studies that accompany it,

(Emphasis mine.)

I only saw only one study referenced, which seems to be a book, not an academic paper.

In any case, I appreciate the data sources. I’ll take a look.

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