• rtxn@lemmy.worldM
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      10 months ago

      Some sort of hidden, concealed, clandestine internal QoS implementation in Windows. Reserving a portion of network bandwidth for high priority traffic sounds like a good concept, but I don’t like the fact that this is so hidden (I’ve been working with computers for many years and I’ve never heard of it until now), and that the mechanism to determine the priority of a packet is unknown.

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        It’s not, and in a vacuum I don’t think anyone would mind. It is the fact that it is concealed that is really shitty.

        “It reserves bandwidth for high-priority tasks such as Windows Update over other tasks that compete for internet bandwidth, like streaming a movie”

        As much as I’d like to keep my system up to date (and I really do), if I’m watching a movie then that is my priority. Any task I’m currently using the bandwidth on, should be considered my system’s priority. This is akin to rebooting the computer when it determines it is necessary, with the user having little control to stop it; it’s intend isn’t malicious, and it is meant to protect the user, but all it achieves is upsetting the user and make us find ways around it or turn it off completely.

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      It’s used for updates. I’m not sure if it works all the time.

      I think that it used to be called superfetch in the old days. https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/superfetch-service-disable-helps-to-increase-speed/3c4d5b4b-edef-4eb7-9456-52fd304e606c

      If you’re using an “unofficial” license, it’s probably normal to disable updates and afferent services.

      I remember from years ago when I was modding Windows XP installations with nLite to try to purge all the unnecessary bits and install some useful stuff. Superfetch was this annoying service that supposedly ruined online gaming due to lag. :)

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        10 months ago

        Prefetch and superfecth are just obnoxious services that waste disk space. You can safely disable them, there is no downside to not using prefetch or superfect on modern SSDs. On regular spinning drives, yes, they did make loading programs a bit faster.

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    10 months ago

    I know instantly how to get the packages I need in Linux but I had to do some research to enable the webcam in Windows 10.

    The idea that one OS is easier than the other is misattributed familiarity.

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      10 months ago

      I discovered yesterday that Windows has a command line package manager in Powershell that can install, uninstall and update basically every software you might ever want to install on a Windows PC.
      winget search ""
      winget list
      winget upgrade

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          10 months ago

          Well, it’s under a permissive license, so there is little he can do legally, except maybe sue them for not mentioning the original project, which I’m sure they will add and that will be that eventually.

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            10 months ago

            That’s true. A little recognition would’ve been nice and I think that’s all he was asking for. Microsoft had a whole team work on it when they could’ve just given him a job to maintain it.

            CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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          10 months ago

          They pulled a corporate and rewrote an opensource project to embed it into windows

          CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

          Do you really need to license your comments?

          © 2024 Baggins@lemmy.ca - All Rights Reserved

          (Plz don’t sue me for making a derivative work based your comment and violating the license kthxbai)

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              I own my own instance. Your “license” is not accepted. Your instance sharing content with mine is an automatic agreement to my instance’s terms.

              1.2 Grant of License: By uploading User Content, you grant Saik0-Lemmy a non-exclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use, copy, distribute, publicly display, and modify your User Content

              See how silly this is? Your license means nothing. It’s just wasted screen space. And nobody is pissed. People are just trying to talk sense to you.

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    I mean that only matters for people like us.

    99.99% of the Windows user base doesn’t give the tiniest semblance of a shit about any of that. Hell I run Windows on my gaming pc still and have never had cause to do any of that.

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        I’m going to be honest with you, as often as this has been memed and for as long as I have been using Windows on my work computer, I have never once been forced to restart on the spot by an automatic update.

        I’m sure those who have will be quick to reply but at this point I’m 90% confident it’s a loud minority.

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          I’ve seen an entire factory shut down for hours because two critical Win10 computers tried and failed to update. It’s never an issue until it becomes one.

          Plus a failed update is the whole reason I nuked my C: drive and switched to Manjaro (now running Arch, put down the pitchforks).

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          Ive not had “must update on the spot right this very second,” but ive had countless, “we will update the second u power off or attempt a restart. If you try and restart into ur linux partition, we will somehow ensure u fail to boot right up until u got thru with our forced update.” Which also sometimes goes hand in hand with, “oops, i was supposed to update, but i shit myself instead. Youre going to need to try again at least once or twice. Dont worry, whether the update goes thru or not, itll only take a maximum of 90 minutes.”

          Windows can fuck its facehole thru its ass as far as its auto updates are concerned for all i care.

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          Yes, because even once is too many.

          In a corporate, I spent an hour and half every morning waiting for Windows to update. Then my coworker handed me Fedora DVD and I never looked back.

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            I’m saying it’s never happened to me. Not once. Zero times. Zero is less than one.

            Normal Windows updates don’t take an hour long. Give me a break. The ones that do are the version upgrades. That’s like the equivalent of a distro upgrade.

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              Sure, your experience may be different.

              That happened in 2013 with random laptop they gave me. I kid you not it took that long, could have been a bug somewhere in the OEM, never cared enough to find out.

              But my experience is just as real as much as yours.

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              Normal Windows updates don’t take an hour

              Correct. But who can tell the difference beforehand between a normal update and an abnormal one? The problem is Windows tends to hide those details. I’ve sat on support calls where a server needs to be rebooted for some configuration change, and Windows insists on applying updates because hey, you’re rebooting anyway, so what if it takes 1/2 hour to do this thing that should take 5 minutes…