Ahoi, Genosse! Wie läuft die Germanisierung? Verbreiten Sie erfolgreich das Wort von Linux in Ihrem Heimatland?
(Übersetzung von DeepL)
Ahoi, Genosse! Wie läuft die Germanisierung? Verbreiten Sie erfolgreich das Wort von Linux in Ihrem Heimatland?
(Übersetzung von DeepL)
The reactions here are why people don’t join forums, don’t ask questions, or choose to learn alone. “duh, I knew that”. Yes, the dude didn’t, which is exactly why he’s frustrated. I think too many have forgotten what it’s like to be a beginner and make a fatal mistake, which would explain the mocking responses here and things like recommending new linux users Arch.
Which is exactly the situation the dude was in. As a newbie, it’s an easy mistake to make. Telling somebody who doesn’t know “well, would you look at that, you didn’t know!” is not just unhelpful, it’s useless and condescending.
We still suffer from the runtime errors that could’ve been caught at compilation time.
What did you actually do?
Maven and Cradle might be terrible, but C and C++ have fucking nothing in terms of dependency management. Even C# has something that few people use, but it has something. C and C++ are such a shit show to build. It’s so bad they had to invent languages to build them and they regularly fuck up (CMake, make, bison, scons, meson, …).
Pull a C or C++ project on a distro or environment and try to build it and you have to dive in the abyss of undeclared dependencies. And good fucking luck with glibc and glib dependencies. If the dev doesn’t know which version they were actually using, it’s up to you to find out. Fun for the entire family!
Can’t imagine there is any. You need to learn three scripts to read Japanese fluently IINM. Katagana, Hirigana and something else… Probably someone who speaks Japanese can say.
If an Arch linux user hasn’t told anybody they use it, are they really using it?
The hate is towards the community members that spam “arch btw” and telling new users to install arch.
You do everything you’re told? They say work overtime and you say how much?
Re-installing an OS is easy
Hmmm, this is where our opinions diverge. It’s easy when things go right. UEFI and MBR changed that. And I’ve had a few linux installations fail for obscure reasons (mostly hardware support).
Installers also say “backup your data” but if you’re coming from windows, what do you do when your stuff is on onedrive? What if you know nothing about partitioning and the installer just wipes the entire disk clean even though you expected your D:/ with your backup to be kept?
Oh, an should you keep that windows recovery partition? What’s on there? How do you access the data to check?
There are a bunch of things to consider when installing to prevent data-loss and IMO they aren’t as straightforward as they seem.
Doing a regular system update or upgrading from one LTS release to another are comparable to oil-check and changing a tire. Installing an OS, IMO, not so much.
There’s just a lot of stuff going on and everybody can make an argument for knowing something:
And so on. It’s all true, but you only have so many hours in a day, and everybody has a different life. You could live in the most affluent society and be dealing with stuff that has nothing to do with computers.
Also, who decides what’s “basic knowledge”? I know a lot about software, what I know about hardware is minimal. What’s minimal to me though might be advanced to another and vice versa.
We should be trying to be more empathetic. Recommending an advanced Linux OS to a newbie isn’t empathetic. Expecting a user to know how to install an OS isn’t empathetic.
No the issue is that we had a second eternal September when the iPhone dropped, and since then the computer literacy of the average boomer was allowed to become what we expect out of everyone.
That is true, iPhones have made people less literate, but it is because many many devs are just like other experts: proud of their ability to do stuff the minority can. We have very few tech-folk who are willing to make things usable for non-techies.
There is a huge “git gud” and RTFM crowd out there, and I for one am glad they get to stay in their niches or get called out for that elitism. Linux forums were (probably still are) the epitome of elitism with people saying insane stuff like “its people’s own fault for using windows” and in the same breath “I don’t want more linux users because it will destroy the experience”. Just a bunch of hipsters gatekeeping stuff with non-existent or shitty documentation, doing their darndest not to let people in for fear of losing the ability to proudly claim “I use linux”.
Look at the Arch crowd. They still haven’t grown out of their ridiculous propensity to scream “i use arch btw” or recommend it to newbies. Arch users smell ineptitude and will promptly call it out to ridicule it or start frothing at the mouth before letting loose their 4 favorite letters: RTFM.
It’s taking a minority of devs who care about UX and large corpos to bring linux to the masses. Without them, we’d still be hard-stuck in with technical troglodytes that have a terminal illness and can’t stop mentioning a recompile every 5 minutes.
It used to have a graphical updater. I don’t know why they did away with it…
As usual, the grapheneOS fanboys are replying. It’s like asking for macs alternative and getting recommended macs with “but they are more secure and buying a used one doesn’t give Apple money” comments.
LineageOS supports a bunch of phones. Some of them even support relocking the bootloader after flashing a new ROM (you’d have to look up which, I can’t remember).
Then there’s Murena which runs eOS.
Of the 3 phones he had, yes. That’s a very small sample size.
How slow is qubes? I imagine that virtualising everything is slow. Does it have a containerised mode?
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