• Donkter@lemmy.world
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        No they’re talking about AL, the man who’s behind every 4 second transition of whatever you want into Ghibli. Al is a savant who can crank out a billion renditions of memes turned into South Park characters a second.

        He used to be a free man, but the company Open AL decided that his gift was too useful to be squandered so now he sits in a basement chained to a rock as he gets order after order demanding Hatsune Miku feet. He’s not even good at drawing feet yet.

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          It’s not even only colloquial, it’s the scientific term for it.

          Edit: Even things that have nothing to do with machine learning or deep learning are AI. i.e. stupid rule based approaches (aka tons of if-else). Deep Learning is a subset of Machine Learning which is a subset of AI.

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            No, you idiot. AI is HAL 9000 from A Space Odyssey. I watched a science fiction movie and that means I’m smart. ChatGPT can’t be AI because AI isn’t real. Get your fancy computer science education out of here /s

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          I’d like to think that words have meaning. They should not be used to pump up stock prices. And certain words, like intelligence, deserve respect.

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            Words have meaning, and the meaning of those words change throughout time, cultures, and even niche circles. In a perfect world, we’d all explain the definition of a word that we are using, but we don’t, and we rely on public consensus to determine the meaning of words. People are able to accept this for slang, but for some reason have a hard time accepting that it happens for normal words as well. People have been using AI to mean “any semblance of thought” in tech for a long time. When playing a game against a computer, people have been calling the computer player AI, even back when games were rudimentary.

            Of course, I’m as big a hater of AI by the modern definition as anyone, I just think there are a lot of people dying on the hill of “words can’t change” when it’s a pretty crazy position to hold.

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              Excuse me if I don’t want to let corporations redefine my language.

              I think there can be AI, but this is not it. It’s one of the reasons I don’t want to call generative or predictive models AI.

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                I guess what I’m saying is that the colloquial definition of “AI” hasn’t changed with the rise of LLMs. “AI” has been used to mean “computers that can make decisions” for at least 20 years. I don’t know if you play video games, but “AI” has been synonymous with “Bot” or “NPC” in that space for a long time now.

                When I was in college, I took classes on Artificial Neural Networks, a good several years before LLMs were released to the public. While you wouldn’t find it in a textbook, a lot of the students called ANNs “AI”.

                Hell, the term “Artificial General Intelligence” was coined in 2007 to replace “AI” for the definition you are using, since people had started using “AI” a lot looser. That was 18 years ago, long before LLMs.

                I agree that the corporations calling their LLMs AI is misleading and manipulative, hell I even could agree that they shouldn’t be allowed to, but let’s not pretend that they have changed the definition of AI. That is fundamentally untrue.

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                It ain’t only corporations, it’s casual, intuitive, everyday speakers—the community that owns the language—arriving there naturally from the regular meaning of individual words: They see a work that appears to be created by some form of intelligence/creativity. No natural intelligence created it. Hence, a work of artificial intelligence.

                See? Not that hard. No need to be difficult about it. Nitpicking a casual speaker over it is bound to earn you well-deserved disdain.

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                out of curiosity, what measurable output of a system would you need to observe as evidence that it’s AI?

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                  “AI” in fiction has meant a machine with a mind like what people have. It’s had that meaning for decades. Very recently, there are programmes that do predictive text like what your phone does, but large. You can call the predictive text programme an “AI”, but as the novelty wears off, it’s gonna sound more and more like advertising than a real description.

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                    I has, but it also has meant a computer “making decisions” for decades as well. I would know, I’ve been using it that way for 20 years, especially in the gaming space. Playing against bots that even remotely feel like a person is playing has been “playing against the AI”

                    Don’t get me wrong, I agree that the marketing being done today is pretty aggregious, and the folks doing it are 100% being manipulative by using the term “AI” in their marketing, but I don’t think they’ve used the term beyond a meaning it has already had for a long time.

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                    I think it’s incredible that so much of what the human brain can do can be emulated with predictive models. It makes sense in retrospect – human brains are doing prediction at every level that we can model.

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        I’d like to out-pedant you: General AI doesn’t exist (though there’s an argument that perhaps it does now). Computer scientists have used the term AI to refer to all sorts of things from pathfinding to STRIPS to video game enemies imitating human players to machine learning since time immemorial. If your objection is that only humans have intelligence, one could equally argue that only humans compute, so no true Computer exists. Please define intelligence for me if you think otherwise.