Thank you GabeSter

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    4 months ago

    So you’re saying that a politician listened to members of his party and the voters, sidelining his own ambitions. And you have a problem with that?

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      I have no doubt that he was presented the near certain possibility of being humiliated (some more) and handing over the remains of American democracy to a group of literal Nazis, just to safeguard his own ego.

      I would have voted for his administration no matter what (I was relatively pleased with it), but I have no fantasies about who Joe is and why he really stepped down. Once Obama started campaigning for him stepping down, it was all over.

      He quit to save his own ego and his “legacy”.

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        4 months ago

        You type this and get up voted. I say the same thing more succinctly and get hammered.

        I would have voted for him, but my vote double doesn’t count. I’m in a hard Blue state, Washington. You could support genocide and Washington would still vote Dem. Oh… Wait.

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          Wait, in the US, it’s not common to hate all your politicians? Coming from France, that’s like… a second nature

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            4 months ago

            Only a few are respected, but for the most part I personally hate them all. Bernie Sanders is one with integrity. So is Jimmy Carter.

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        The thing is the nomination was his and there was nothing anyone could do about it. He could have stayed in the race. An argument can be made that it looks worse to step down halfway through the campaign instead of fighting till the end. An egocentric guy like Trump would never have stepped down. He would try to turn the base against the RNC and set the party on fire before giving up. That’s the contrast being shown here.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      It’s not just a matter of if, but also when.

      Biden waited until damn near the last possible minute, and probably wouldn’t have stepped down if it wasn’t for the Trump shooting.

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        I dunno - the timing was right after the RNC and Vance being locked in. Vance didn’t broaden the ticket appeal because they thought Trump had the election in the bag. The timing might not have been strategic but it worked out pretty damn well!

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          4 months ago

          The timing was clearly strategic. He didn’t want to do it, but there’s a reason why Kamala’s campaign literally started calling Democratic representatives within hours.

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        Waiting until the last second absolutely fucked the GOP though. They were only prepared to run against Biden and now they don’t have the time needed to spin up an effective campaign against Harris.

        I don’t know if the timing was strategic or just a tough decision, both seem possible. But the end result is that we’re now in a better position to stop Trump in November.

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          It was not strategic. It was hubris and bad advice bordering on elderly abuse. I have no doubt Jill Biden was a big part of the choice to stick it out, based on some of the insider leaks on this topic.