• TAYRN@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Did they post anything to support that claim?

    Diet and exercise can fix most “holes in the heart”. Even if they are the 0.01%, that doesn’t change my message for every single other person.

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      9 months ago

      Did they post anything to support that claim?

      What do you want, their medical records? Their doctor’s phone number?

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        9 months ago

        Yes, if someone claimed that diet, exercise, and such had actively harmed them, I would want medical records to back that up.

        That wasn’t what happened, and I understand that now.

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            9 months ago

            Someone who claims blatant lies should absolutely show some proof to back them up. Do you agree with that statement?

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              9 months ago

              Funny how you’re the only one who seems to think they’re lying.

              And no, I don’t agree that someone should provide you, a complete stranger, with private medical records. Because that would be incredibly stupid.

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                9 months ago

                Now, seeing as the thing they claimed was provably false,

                Do you think it’s wrong for me to ask for proof when someone makes an unfounded claim?

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                  9 months ago

                  What part of “And no, I don’t agree that someone should provide you, a complete stranger, with private medical records. Because that would be incredibly stupid” are you not understanding?

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                    9 months ago

                    Okay. Since you won’t listen to reason, I’ll just sum up my points:

                    Someone claimed that eating good, working out, and sleeping more actively hurt them.

                    This didn’t actively hurt them, and they admitted this.

                    Do you have any more questions?

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                9 months ago

                Yes, both they and I have admitted that they were lying when they claimed that.

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      9 months ago

      My previous misdiagnosis put me on meds that hid my symptoms and covid had my doctor’s office telling us that if we had no concerns, to not come in. By the time my symptoms began to show even with the meds, my heart was the size of a football (gridiron football, not association football) and required a transplant. Any increased effort made me nearly pass out.

      I get where you’re coming from, MOST OF THE TIME diet and exercise are better than not. My circumstances were pretty atypical too, but lets not act like telling anyone that walks into a hospital just needs to jog their ailments away is the way to go. A lot of doctors would do well to try just a little harder, it likely would have saved me from needing to wait for another person to die to be able to continue to live.

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        9 months ago

        I’m very sorry that happened to you. My problem was with your phrasing. As I’m sure you know: eating better, working out, and sleeping more did not make your condition worse. I interpreted that as what you claimed.

        You were a victim of malpractice and negligence, not living a more healthy life.

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          9 months ago

          Yeah, I know that. I just bristle at the thought of being told to lose weight instead of actually getting the help I needed. I don’t ACTUALLY think that stuff made me worse off. It was mostly the look on the doctor’s face when I told him I WAS working out and eating better, and he laughed in my face because I was gaining weight. Too bad I was retaining fluids… There’s a lot more to the story, but I don’t care to get into it.

          Can you tell I’m a bit salty? Sorry for the trauma dump.

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            9 months ago

            I cannot even fathom what you’ve been through. There is no need to apologize.

            If you want to share more, I’ll listen.