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And a Happy New Year.

Merry Christmas.

I had to confirm what c/ I was looking at. This made me furrow my brow.

And me fearing to replace my windows because it will be a shody job at best.

I would have to try on purpose to do a bad job to get something half this bad.

It’s not inconceivable but I will insist on the point that technology is the right tool to solve such issues.

It was inconceivable a few decades ago - even a couple of years ago! - several medical advances that are today used routinely.

It is a fun theoretical discussion to entertain but we would reach no real conclusion.

Doesn’t invalidate the point made: at some point, a previously irreplaceable resource was synthesized and mass produced.

I still have to find the time and motivation to read the entire Dune but if at some point they start mass producing the stuff that literally held them prisoners, as there is no going back once spice is first taken, they are literally a civilization of drug addicts, willingly.

That depends. Although massive deforestation throughout the planet, tree farms are a thing. So…

But haul wood over who knows what expanses of space? It would be cheaper to build greenhouses on barren planets and moons. The biggest challenge would probably be to prevent the oxygen in those enclosed habitats to eat away the building materials.

I remember following the advances on an experiment, during the 90’s, where a team of scientists designed and built a fully self contained habitat, with only plants inside. I think the objective was to measure if the plants could/would survive in very limited resources conditions. Well, the plants survived. After an initial shock, the plants self regulated and the habitat stabilized into a fully enclosed ecosystem. Things became weird when the oxygen levels rose to a point where the ciment of the walls started to come apart. They had to hastily coat the walls with very thick rubber paint to prevent more damage.

But they do eventually manage, don’t they?

Beyond death, there is no concern for disease.

Usually, at this point, I would say even a broken clock is right twice a day, but I’m trying to get accostumed to receive a compliment, so I’ll instead say thank you for those kind words. And that we agree.

Sad but true.

From what I took from the movie, there was a knowledge that such a collective overarching conscience existed. It wasn’t a figment of imagination nor a collective (de)illusion. It was tangible in that way.

And being cheeky: electricty can’t be touched? i disagree. Every single time I put my fingers where I shouldn’t, it reminded me in very tangible way I wasn’t looking at what I was doing.

I’ll grant that waffer thin idea as a good attempt of putting something akin to good sci-fi into an otherwise solely for visuals work, although I disagree with the notion of deifying something that is tangible, as in the setting put forward in the movie.

And I mentioned Dune because of the immortality mention. The spice is also irreplaceable and unique, produced only in a single planet, through a rather complex organic process, harvested at great risk and cost, then to be synthesized by the tons.

That was good sci-fi, with sound social and religious criticism in it.

We can save mental effort and just go for the Dune series at this point. What is the point in that? In considering the advances in modern chemistry, there are ever few organic compounds that can not be synthesized.

I fall back to my original thought: is well thought sci-fi so hard to achieve nowadays? If seems there is a fixation about misery and destruction nowadays.

Nice to cross paths with you again!

I’ll grant that but what use for crystalized urea is there? Urea I know a few. And if we already know how to cultivate diamonds and other artificial gems, why bother mining for that?

There are exactly zero minerals available inside planets that are unavailable on asteroids.

Sci-fi will be sci-fi but can we go back to the time it was at least well thought? Can’t hurt. If the objective of the movie was to make social criticism, it didn’t need to go to such lenghts.

And it was a boring movie; failed to captivate me.

You realized I just opted for having a divergent view on the subject, right?

So… We manage to master space travel. We manage to master interstellar travel. We eventually find a planet with suitable environment for sustaining our species. And we just overlook it.

Can someone explain me the reasoning behind this?

Sci-fi to the side, there are more minerals available - readily - on asteroids and barren planets than anywhere else. Why go hopping around looking for habitable planets, to the reason of 1 out of who knows how many, to then strip mine it?

We do not kink shame here.

Do that again here.

Even Lemmy is in need of that.

People have a scatological obcession with misery and disgrace.