US Vice President JD Vance has called on European states to show greater independence, urging them not to be US “vassals.” He also said EU governments could have done more to oppose Washington over the Iraq War.

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    The one you started, and spread fake bullshit about WMDs to get European countries on board?

    That war?

    Fuck off you pudgy little fake working-class beard eyeliner cunt.

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    Vance saying Europe should’ve done more to stop his nation from going to war has a high levels of rapist blaming victim for their acts energy.

    I was young back then so my memory of the details as i’ve experienced them are somewhat blurred, but there definitely was opposition. And that was met with statements along the lines of “if you’re not with us you’re against us/part of the problem”.

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      For a while a disturbing number of places in America were calling French fries “freedom fries” because France didn’t want to invade Afghanistan with us. From my recollection, most of Europe was against it and the UK was the biggest backer of the invasion. I was in high school at the time so I could be wrong.

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        Close. French fries were renamed because France refused to join the Iraq war, stating they looked at the intelligence and didn’t see evidence of WMDs. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said that this was “Old Europe” talking and that the Eastern European countries were more willing to join the war.

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        There were mass demonstrations in the UK against the second Iraq war. Tony Blair’s credibility as Prime Minister was completely destroyed by his slimy toadying to GW Bush.

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      I remember the US and UK being the only ones that really wanted the war and others being opposed or undecided. Isn’t that when the name ‘french frys’ became a political thing?

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        The freedom fries, yes. I was living in Dubai at the time but it was a buzz all over the internet back then.

        My god… saying ‘i read this on the internet’ and ‘abuzz all over the internet’ when talking about 22 and 23 years ago is making me feel old. I need my meds…

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    I remember the lead up. There was a lot of action against it. But the US was clamoring really fucking hard for the war since the neo-cons wanted to invade Iraq well before 9/11.

    Fuck you, JD.

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    So when the US starts a war with Canada and Denmark to avoid free elections in 2 years, Europe should step in and JD will make sure the US backs down?

    OK.

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    Well, he’s about 20 years too late for such criticism, and if he had been around to say that, his party would have called him a terrorist sympathizer. He probably would be put on a "no-fly list. "

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    In a perfect world, right after his comments there should have been a hail of gunfire putting him down. You know, just to prove that europeans aren’t vassal states.

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    Was watching a clip from “the Crown” about how when Tony Blair was elected, people were contemplating getting rid of the monarchy due to how popular he was. Now a “Blairite” is a slur in British politics due to it’s connotation with the Iraq war debacle. Second biggest modern mistake just behind allowing the Brexit poll and just ahead of the Lib Dems propping up the Tory government.

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    He knows this is BS. I wonder what he’s been up to say something he knows is farcical as smoke and mirror cover. The Republicans could be trying to pass an evil legislation, like allowing to fuck couches.

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    And now that the US is pulling out of a proxy war, the EU is insisting it continue, consequences of nuclear war be damned.

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      I know Americans suck badly at Geography. But this war and Russia is bordering the European Union directly as opposed to Iraq. So it’s a completely different thing

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        And you’re both going to continue a fight the US started, leaving both the EU & Russia in a weakened state. Which if you look into the leaked communications from the US state dept, you’d see that was exactly the plan.

        You’re being played.