The Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany. If the Jews all move to Israel, the Nazis will say mission accomplished. Since its inception, Israel has been beloved by antisemites. Israel is fundamentally a Nazi project. Antisemitic to the core.
It makes you wonder why the nazis murdered them all instead of just sending them away from Germany…
Israel was a project made by British and American Christians, fresh from defeating the actual nazis, who wanted to colonise the middle East and to bring about the end of days. Facsist to the core but not anti Jewish or nazi.
The Madagascar Plan (German: Madagaskarplan) was a plan proposed by the Nazi German government to forcibly relocate the Jewish population of Europe to the island of Madagascar. Franz Rademacher, head of the Jewish Department of the German Foreign Office, proposed the idea in June 1940, shortly before the Fall of France. The proposal called for the handing over of control of Madagascar, then a French colony, to Germany as part of the eventual peace terms.
In the late nineteenth century and early twentieth century, there were a number of resettlement plans for European Jews that were precursors to the Madagascar Plan. Paul de Lagarde, an Orientalist scholar, first suggested evacuating the European Jews to Madagascar in his 1878 … Members of the Zionist movement in 1904–1905 seriously debated the Uganda Scheme, by which Russian Jews, who were in immediate danger from ongoing pogroms in the Russian Empire, would be settled in the East Africa Protectorate (now Kenya), which was part of the British Empire at the time. The plan was later rejected as unworkable by the World Zionist Congress.
Adherents of territorialism split off from the main Zionist movement and continued to search for a location where Jews might settle and create a state, or at least an autonomous area.
It initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany. Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis, proposing a Jewish state based on “nationalist and totalitarian principles, and linked to the German Reich by an alliance”
Former Lehi leader Yitzhak Shamir became Prime Minister of Israel in 1983.
I knew Palestine was British at the time I just never heard that the British elites portrayed as evangelicals before. I always clocked them racist imperialists, not zealots trying to bring about the apocalypse.
Also calm the fuck down. I’m not sealioning. I’m legitimately curious. You’re more than welcome to go through my comment history to see I’ve taken a clear stance on Palestinian liberation.
Youre right, I shouldn’t have replied to you like that. Apologies, I’ve had to deal with some appalling human beings in this thread and it made me overly defensive. Of course, thats still 100% my fault but I hope you might be able to understand how I made that mistake, at least.
Oh yeah, and in one of the ironic twists of ignorance, many religious people use that as proof that god is real and can tell the future. I mean, whatever anyone beleives, with all the details, it’s a terrible argument.
Seems that the main difference was that the nazis were hoping that the jews would die while trying to settle there. “Barren, unproductive lands were viewed as appropriate destinations as this would prevent the deportees from flourishing in their new location”
Pretty sure the locals wouldn’t enjoy the massive influx of “undesirables” either.
The Nazis wanted the Jews out of Germany. If the Jews all move to Israel, the Nazis will say mission accomplished. Since its inception, Israel has been beloved by antisemites. Israel is fundamentally a Nazi project. Antisemitic to the core.
It makes you wonder why the nazis murdered them all instead of just sending them away from Germany…
Israel was a project made by British and American Christians, fresh from defeating the actual nazis, who wanted to colonise the middle East and to bring about the end of days. Facsist to the core but not anti Jewish or nazi.
Israel and the concept of Zionism predated the Nazis and WW2 by quite a few years.
Zionism did, but Israel didn’t exist until after WW2.
There’s quite an overlap between Zionists and antisemites who wanted to force Jews out of Europe. Including the Nazis.
Madagascar Plan
Early Zionist history is begging the biggest antisemites in the world for their own colony. Zionists made their peace with antisemites along time ago.
Cool story, still not nazis though.
You keep saying that, and you keep being wrong.
So, what nazi specific things did they do that wouldn’t fall under fascism?
One of the founding terrorist groups of israel tried to work with Hitler to colonize Palestine
Lehi (militant group)
Lost of people worked with hitler at one point or another
Actively seeking out his cooperation to Pogrom European Jews to israel is slightly different
Different to what exactly?
To not being Nazis.
This angle wasn’t a thing until like the 80s.
It was the literally reasoning behind why the British Christian generals chose to go ahead with it, in the 1940s.
News to me. Is there some source to this?
British high command, as Palestine was part of the British empire back then. As if you’re sealioning the fundamentals of the history of that reason.
I suggest you learn some history about the region before commenting further.
I knew Palestine was British at the time I just never heard that the British elites portrayed as evangelicals before. I always clocked them racist imperialists, not zealots trying to bring about the apocalypse.
Also calm the fuck down. I’m not sealioning. I’m legitimately curious. You’re more than welcome to go through my comment history to see I’ve taken a clear stance on Palestinian liberation.
Youre right, I shouldn’t have replied to you like that. Apologies, I’ve had to deal with some appalling human beings in this thread and it made me overly defensive. Of course, thats still 100% my fault but I hope you might be able to understand how I made that mistake, at least.
Oh yeah, and in one of the ironic twists of ignorance, many religious people use that as proof that god is real and can tell the future. I mean, whatever anyone beleives, with all the details, it’s a terrible argument.
If by that you mean they tried to make the whole world germany, then yeah they only “wanted them out of Germany”
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today
I mean it’s not that far of from reality https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
Seems that the main difference was that the nazis were hoping that the jews would die while trying to settle there. “Barren, unproductive lands were viewed as appropriate destinations as this would prevent the deportees from flourishing in their new location”
Pretty sure the locals wouldn’t enjoy the massive influx of “undesirables” either.