• No_Change_Just_Money@feddit.de
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      8 months ago

      You will get more people to join your cause with a positive message: i.g. “Do these small steps to start” than a negative one, I.g. “If you don’t go fully vegan, you are still part of the problem.”

      “Perfect is the enemy of good.”

      So it is easier to convince people to reduce meat consumption, which than makes it more likely that people will go vegetarian or vegan later

      And i actually feel like vegans on the internet can be too aggressive, alienating people they could get on their side

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          8 months ago

          Of course facts can be aggressive

          Let’s assume you talk to someone from a first world country. It is aggressive to say your lifestyle is responsible for the death of children in the developmental world, you are indirectly a murderer

          It is more helpful to say: try fair-trade chlothes and check for companies that you buy from

          Dividing society does not help better it

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      8 months ago

      Or vegans can just mind their own business and leave the rest alone. Claiming abuse and murder and yet still buy smartphones whose materials are sourced by abuse of the poor, drive around on liquefied animals and use plastics.

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          8 months ago

          Which is fair enough and I can respect that. But I have no respect for assholes who think they are better than the rest and keep calling everyone murderer and animal abuser while they claim they can undo 100k+ years of evolution in a single life-time and hypocritically rely on modern medicine to keep them healthy.

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            8 months ago

            Just because some vegans are being assholes doesn’t mean you should be an asshole to everyone else and ignore the problem.

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      8 months ago

      Small incremental changes are easier to make than big ones. It is also better to have many people reducing meat than just a few full vegans.