Threema sells to businesses. It’s a one time fee for personal.

I almost think that’s a pro. I don’t understand how signal intends to pay for servers forever with voluntary donations. Though I’d be fine if they set up a mandatory annual fee.

Signal is far more polished IMO but both are great.

Gotta represent.

Sure it does. Same way you shame bad parts of society. Non voters deserve blame and shaming. Ignoring their abdication of civic duty just entrenches their bad behavior by excusing it.

Down voted for the truth.

Say it with me- fuck nonvoters.

Pssh. I mean, I voted. I did my part. Millions others though didn’t.

I don’t why lemmy people find it so hard to not blame the DNC and actually blame the people who either voted for fascism or did nothing to stop it. Maybe because some of them are the very same as the latter.

Yeah a lot of people blaming Biden when we all had a fair shot at voting against fascism. We suck. May as well actually accept that.

7th in population and 42nd in public transit spending per capita. Abysmal.

Great job. Im sure that’ll work just like you want

Well that would require people to actually go vote every time instead of just bitching online. Or discouraging everyone from voting by saying someone is “Republican light”

You’re ignoring the question. You said it was all up to the dems. I say it’s both them and non voters.

You act like non voters had no choice. They clearly did and deserve blame. End of story.

They could’ve helped defeat fascism at the ballot box but didn’t. So yeah, here we are… Because people were lazy. If they don’t care enough to vote for “neoliberaal conservatives” over fascism well …I guess they get what they get.

Not even that. Could’ve been a DARE spokesperson.

What would you say to defend those people then?

All those things you say don’t bother the dems clearly doesn’t bother non voters then either. Meaning your criticism should go straight to them too.

And again- I’m not saying Bernie is wrong or that the Dems don’t deserve some blame.

The point being- non-voters also deserve some blame. Let’s stop coddling those who don’t do anything at all.

Somehow we talk all about getting people to go out and vote and when they don’t, who do we blame? The people themselves who are too stupid, too lazy, or too disinterested to vote? Oh of course not. We use our whipping boy, the Democrats and only the Democrats.

But sure- keep telling them that it’s everyone else’s job to entertain them and that it’s totally not their fault if they stay home. Great strategy so far. 🙄

Ignore genocide? No. In fact, if someone possessed a brain they’d vote for Harris to avoid more genocide. But nice try.

My point being- people keep blaming only the Democrats over and over again and never take any actual responsibility themselves. I’m less miffed by those who voted third party (even though that was dumb) than those who plain didn’t care enough to do anything.

If they don’t want to be heard, then, again, fuck them. Hope they get the worst of this admin right after the trumpers who gleefully voted for fascism.

I’m not yelling at voters. I’m yelling at non-voters.

And no, no it doesn’t. It’s fun though- leftists, progressives, pundits, etc. always blame the Dems. Republicans have no standard to be held to evidently. And non-voters are always absolved of blame too. We can’t possibly blame the millions of people who decide that fascism or abortion rights or any other thing isn’t important enough to get the fuck off the couch and do the bare minimum.

So yeah- you keep telling them that’s fine. I’m very sure that you never blaming them will mean the Dems will turn it all around on their own and things will be just peachy.

1- the amount of people who withheld their vote for either Gaze or Cheney has to be minute.

2- I honestly don’t give a shit anymore. I most likely will be just fine. If people want to act like they have no civic duty then I hope they suffer the full wrath of the shit that is gonna come from this admin. maybe when they get hit in the face a million times they’ll wake the fuck up and do THEIR job.

3- That’s horseshit. Bernie was fucked in 2016 but not 2020. So others dropped out and Biden took the mantle yeah? Bernie couldn’t beat him. That is not “the establishment”'s fault. That’s the fault of, oh look at that, EVERY NON VOTER out there who said they liked him but didn’t vote for him. I voted for him and if we go by your line of reasoning- the reason he lost is “because he didn’t appeal to enough people.” Or wait- was it my line of reasoning that is right in that people DIDN’T VOTE? Hmm…

Had a big campaign but you can’t control media not reporting on that and only reporting on what she said of Trump.

And no- the whole point of political campaigning is to get people to vote FOR YOU. Not to vote AT ALL.

Again- Dems might be out of touch or blah blah blah but it doesn’t excuse people not voting. So again, let’s yell at the dumbasses who sat it all out too. Or else you’re just reaffirming they can do the same again and again and somehow only place blame on political parties. That’s pure garbage.

Don’t absolve non voters of their dereliction of civic duty.

They’re supposed to vote and pick the best candidate. By not even voting third party they’ve said theyre just fine with everything that comes.

I say give it to them good and hard.

And if you do absolve them of their bullshit, theyre going to continue to do fuck all every single election.

Enjoy hell, dumbass.