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Cake day: December 28th, 2023

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  • I am taking issue with your calling them “habitual losers” since it’s demonstrably untrue. If you only look at the last election, you can’t call it “habitual”. If you widen the timescale, the worst possible is the last 3, in which they still won 1/3. In any other timescale, they were even or won more. Sure, there are other offices, but the presidency is quite a big one to overlook.

    I said that you aren’t ever going to understand what really happened if you start with a false premise, and you’re obviously going to defend your false premise to the end, so I’m out.


  • Yes! Let’s have some reflection and not pick the timescale to suit a narrative. The “habitual losers” won 3 of the last 5. Pelosi, Clinton, Biden etc. were all very present when Obama was in the Whitehouse.

    I totally agree that it’s ridiculous to lose to Trump, but you can’t claim that they lost because their platform could never win, because it already has - including against Trump.

    Why did they lose? I don’t know - but I do know that you aren’t going to find the answer if you start from a false premise.








  • The way you’ve worded that suggested to me that there isn’t an actual solution so, for the people who didn’t click through, I’ll point out that the article concludes: “more sustainable alternatives to plastic bottles exist for all three types of beverage”.

    That said, in order to compare the environmental impact, there has to be some kind of weighting between the energy cost of manufacture and the direct environmental pollution (discarded plastic choking marine animals; microplastics; etc). I’m not sure it even makes sense to try to combine them. Climate change is an imminent existential threat, whereas microplastics are poisoning us but not obviously killing us.

    I also wonder what they assumed for the energy source in the glass manufacture. It is mostly fossil fuels at present, but the industry is moving towards electrification.