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  • It’s not “your choice” if you have to hack the installer to do it, something 99.99% of people wouldn’t even understand if you tried to explain if to them.

    Also a single command line does not compare to Linux

    Outside of l33t h4kzors distros like Arch, Linux OS installers have not required any command line invocation for at least two decades. Just enter your username, wifi info, etc and click next until it’s done.


  • I used to think like that, but now I’m on the fence since I’ve started working much more closely with packaging. Calling it “linux” is actually kind of harmful for adoption. Devs that claim their software works on Linux mislead people into thinking it works on any Linux distro, which is rarely true. Most of the time, those devs only test on Ubuntu and no other distro.

    Maybe when Snaps finally die out and Flatpak emerges as the one true standard for desktop apps, then that problem will go away once and for all. Until then, I think we should normalize distinguishing Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, etc as separate “operating systems” instead of “distros”, which is an unnecessary and misleading term anyways.


  • I think this comment encapsulates the problem well: laymen who are not involved in the process in any way (on either side) acting like armchair experts and passing harsh judgement. You’re making some very unfair assumptions based on age, and nothing about the actual technical arguments.

    This is why people like Martin feel justified going on social media to publicly complain, because they know they’ll get a bunch of yesmen with no credible arguments to mindlessly harrass the developers they disagree with. It’s childish and unproductive, and while I’ve personally respected Martin as a developer for a long time, I don’t believe he’s mature enough to be involved in the Rust for Linux effort (tbf, he’s not the only Rust dev with this attitude). If the project fails, it will be because of this behavior, not because of the “old guys” being stubborn.