Releasing the hostages won’t stop anything. The IDF was headshotting children before October 7th.

According to this, Hamas rejected proposition by Israel on march 1. Which then triggered Israel.

Seventeen days later? I don’t think you can call that a “trigger”

Fact is, Israel has been violating the ceasefire since the beginning according to the reports I’ve been reading.

Hamas shouldn’t even have the hostages, but stealing a few hundred people is nothing compared to the way Israel bullies Gaza. Now they’ve got the hostages, they’ve lost any moral high ground anyway, so they’re going to use them to the best tactical, strategic and diplomatic advantage they can. It’s the smart thing to do. It’s not the right thing to do, but I think everyone lost all hope of either side doing something right a long time ago.

Well you’ve used the qualifier “adequate”, which means there’s an undefined set of criteria for bargaining that you deem acceptable. However there was until three days ago a ceasefire in place. A ceasefire by its existence proves that some bargaining has been done.
There were no provisions in the ceasefire that allowed Israel to attack under the conditions in which they did. An unconditional and complete release of hostages by 18/03/2025 was not one of the conditions imposed upon Hamas. Israel contravened the ceasefire. Therefore by giving the green light, the arbiter was violently remiss in his duties to uphold it impartially.
No idea where you get your news, but if you look at multiple sources from the time the ceasefire was signed (mid January), you’ll see the terms of the ceasefire, and you’ll see that Hamas did not break them.

The conversation is about American politics, because American politicians are illegally sending these men to El Salvador.

I’m not a Dyson sphere. But what do either of these items have to do with our conversation?

Absolutely they should give up their only bargaining chip. That will leave them in a stronger position, obviously, as they will be literally decimated -but- they can then complain about how ruthlessly they were destroyed. I’m sure the arbiter will just put everything back as it was before any of this mess even happened.

Especially since the arbiter is one Donald J. Trump, a Colossus of a man with an immaculate reputation for fairness, and a knack for both resurrecting eradicated families and magically repairing destroyed infrastructure with a flick of his wand. Yes, release the hostages unconditionally, I’m sure it’ll just work out for you if you, I dunno, pray hard enough. (But not like that, though. We don’t recognise that kind of prayer)

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Is that your stance on immigration then? Clowns in wrong car? Because that’s a shit stance on immigration that is.

Have a read of the article old bean. They are being sent to El Salvador from the US, in violation of any number of US laws, including the big one, the Constitution of the USA.

But they’re innocent until there’s proof of guilt. Sending people to forced labour encampments because of their tattoos is just a different nazi move.

Did you catch the words “without proof”, and “without due process” in the OP? It would appear that these people pictured are innocent.

Why not put that on the sign then instead of some vague, unrelated bollocks that doesn’t justify the removal? If that’s the case then I feel the wording on the sign is borderline dishonest.

I read this in Ben Shapiro’s voice

Aww, did someone get sad sad when their favourite christofascist caught the bad words on teh interwebs? It’s ok booboo, Benny is still here and he’s still making all the lady parts dwy. Don’t you listen to the naughty haters!

But that has nothing to do with capital. My point is that we would be making these advances regardless of GDP or the value of the NYSE or whatever. Capitalism does not drive innovation is what I’m saying to you.

Ok fair enough. I am not familiar with the American academic legal system. I do not appreciate being likened to the “Rogan crowd”.
The fact about it being a professional qualification rather than an academic one stands, then, I take it?

Meh, JD is an entry-level law qualification: “in Canada, it is considered a second-entry bachelor’s degree.” [Wikipedia] In any case, it’s a professional qualification, not an academic one.

Shapiro only has a B.A.
Peterson is fully qualified to talk on psychological markers for alcoholism, and a broad range of clinical psychology, and not much else.
They are both (educated) bullshit merchants, not intellectuals. Intellectuals are honest.

The industrial revolution happened because of technological advances, not the other way around. The economic model changed because of basic human greed. Scientific breakthroughs happen with or without financial incentive because of basic human curiosity.

The world would absolutely be better if we hadn’t been ravaging the atmosphere and ecosystems for 300 years. Do you think cars, factories, the internet make the world a better place? For who? The people who own these things benefit while the rest of us clamour for space and calories. Fuck capitalism.
Technology advanced before capitalism for the few hundred thousand years or so that humans were around. Ingenuity and provenance - standing on the shoulders of giants, drives innovation, not free market competition. Capitalism or not, we would still have science. And without capitalism, I believe we would spend a fair bit more of our time on it, instead of chasing green bits of paper.

I don’t think that’s right. You might be thinking of sociopathy or borderline? Me and all my auties feel empathy.