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  • Left wing voters are not motivated by genocide, nor trying to meet those who do support it in the middle with “just a bit of genocide, as a treat”.

    Since we’re adding caveats of reality, I’ll join in: the Democrats’ myriad mistakes and missteps in “motivating” left wing voters does not absolve those voters of their own responsibility.

    You did the right thing

    voted for Kamala, I kept these opinions to myself to not push voters away from doing so, and I pushed the harm reduction argument to anyone who was considering abstaining or voting 3rd party.

    I did the same, despite my own similar lack of “motivation”, because as you said, it was the best play we had with the hand we were dealt. The criticism here is leveled at the third party voters and abstainers, because the people here are voters. If you want to criticize Democratic leadership, I encourage you to direct that criticism directly toward them.

    I would love to have had a viable alternative, but without significant representation in Congress and state Governorship, it’s just not going to happen. Successful presidential campaigns don’t just appear out of thin air (unless you have a massive cult of personality). The vast majority of presidents were previously Senators or Governors, offices that they rose to after careers that began at the local level. If you want better options, actually vote in your local elections, and encourage other leftists to do the same.

    Until then, red vs blue is our reality, and criticizing the lesser evil for not being good enough is a virtue signal circle jerk.


  • Since you are so concerned about 3rd party voters, surely you are working to do away with First Past The Post voting in your state so people can vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.

    That’s the hope, yeah. I’m all for voting third party in a system where it actually makes sense to do so, we’re just not there yet.

    How is the effort to pass electoral reform going in your state?

    Extremely poorly, unfortunately.





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    I don’t recognize the need to identify the people to blame. There are multiple parties with various degrees of culpability. Yes, the primary blame lies with people who orchestrated the exploitation. But blame also lies with those who fell for such and obvious grift, and those who didn’t vote, and those who voted third party out of protest.

    Concentrating all blame on one party without nuance is exactly the tribalist nonsense that powers fascism.