it’s the system we have and we should use it

That was Thomas Jefferson’s justification for the continuation of slavery.

Regulation and heavy taxes

This assumes a world where regulatory capture is not the default state of things.

the government can’t seize citizens personal property for no reason and without compensation.

That “no reason” is extremely vague and allows it to be one of the primary underlying argument against taxes and regulations.

Disagree with personal property shouldnt exist, but agree that businesses need to have their power and ownership regulated heavily

But without also limiting the power and ownership of individuals we loop right back to feudalism and the exact issues these systems were designed to solve.

What is your understanding of what “personal property” is like under some idealistic, utopian communism?

regulate harshly and with a 50s style tax

Isn’t this argument ‘free-market but with guardrails’ or did I misunderstand?

What do you mean by “personal property”? That monopolistic land ownership is okay so long as it’s individuals not businesses?

Since Nixon vs. Humphrey vs. Wallace back in 1968.

In 2024 pproximately 59.0% of voting age population voted, which is 63.9% of voting eligible population.

2020 was the only year to surpass with 62.8% VAP/65.3% VEP.

3rd place is 2008 with 58.3% 61.6%.

Well yeah, cause the only other way that story could’ve gone was “the OG Black Panthers were right, obviously the good guys and revolution is key” which isn’t a story that you’re allowed to tell.

To be fair, that series pushed that line much more than pretty much anything else I’ve seen on TV, but they did Ekko so dirty.

Liberals cannot actively support it without also confronting the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology.

Thank you, I couldn’t have asked for a better demonstration of this point. A healthcare system that is based on the free market but that is “regulat[ed] harshly and [with] a 50s style tax on the rich” is not universal healthcare!

If you can see the issues with healthcare and can understand why universal healthcare would be a necesarry improvement then how are you still advocating for a free market solution for anything?

That baby died a long time ago, and required required constant human rights violations to keep it alive in the first place. Getting rid of the bathwater won’t bring it back or make it require less cruelty to keep alive.

It’s still shocking to me that people were stupid enough to believe that Jim Crow Joe would be a remedy for fascism in the first place.

It’s doubly shocking to me that you’ve already forgot about Roe v Wade, most deportations in history (even more than now), building and expansion of prisons/cop cities, expanded drone strikes/kidnappings, start of multiple genocides, etc. and then feel entitled enough to be this fucking glib.

You have not been paying attention. If you believe in electoralism then stop punching down and redirect your rage at those who actually have power to change things within that system.

Universal health care is antithetical to both market economies and economic freedom which are both core liberal principles. Liberals cannot actively support it without also confronting the inherent contradictions within liberal ideology.

Unless you’re using the term “liberal” in the US sense of ‘anybody “left” of fascism’ in which case you’re statistically correct, but mostly due to generalization.