I shouldn’t have anything to hide, but I’m part of a group the current fascist leadership in government want’s to eradicate, so hide I shall.

That said, I also feel like people acting like the remote server they are connected to is tracking what you do on it as some kind of surprise is so stupid. “Facebook is keeping track of the pictures I uploaded to it!!!” There’s a lot of stuff to complain about Facebook, google, or whoever, but them tracking stuff you send to them willingly isn’t one of them.

It doesn’t. They run using stuff like Ollama or other LLM tools, all of the hobbyist ones are open source. All the model is is the inputs, node weights and connections, and outputs.

LLMs, or neural nets at large, are kind of a “black box” but there’s no actual code that gets executed from the model when you run them, it’s just processed by the host software based on the rules for how these work. The “black box” part is mostly because these are so complex we don’t actually know exactly what it is doing or how it output answers, only that it works to a degree. It’s a digital representation of analog brains.

People have also been doing a ton of hacking at it, retraining, and other modifications that would show anything like that if it could exist.

Not in the way you think. They aren’t constantly training when interacting, that would be way more inefficient than what US AI companies have been doing.

It might be added to the training data, but a lot of training data now is apparently synthetic and generated by other models because while you might get garbage, it gives more control over the type of data and shape it takes, which makes it more efficient to train for specific domains.

Exactly. I’m queer. I’m not scared of China, even if they were doing the same thing the US currently is. Because only one of those actually effects the rights I have and what I do in my day-to-day.

I do not understand how the average person does not realize that.

As a queer woman in the US, I currently care infinitely more what the US gov and companies track about me than what China does.

I swear people do not understand how the internet works.

Anything you use on a remote server is going to be seen to some degree. They may or may not keep track of you, but you can’t be surprised if they are. If you run the model locally, there is no indication it is sending anything anywhere. It runs using the same open source LLM tools that run all the other models you can run locally.

This is very much like someone doing surprised pikachu when they find out that facebook saves all the photos they upload to facebook or that gmail can read your email.

I’m sorry, I’m too busy dealing with my rights being trampled and taken away by these monsters along with other life stressors to care about your moral grandstanding.

Yes. Fuck them. Fuck anyone who supports them for “economic anxiety” or whatever BS rationalization they use to blind themselves, and fuck anyone who is still giving fascists the benifit of the doubt.

There is no middle ground, no high road, when these people literally want to kill me and my friends. I am exhausted by the last week along and have long been sick of people treating fascists with kid gloves.

The idea that people think I’m as bad as they are for standing up for myself while they inflict violence on me. Every step of calling fascists fascists and it’s called “hyperbole” or “hysterical”. Because acknowledgement of what they say they will do, have been doing, and are doing means their lives might be disrupted, that they would need to do something.

They do. We all do. But most people aren’t. So, I’m focused on protecting me and mine. If you wanted a world where all we do is finger wag at fascist then something should have been done to stop what is happening right now…

But now, I have no sympathy anymore and grow tired of liberals, and honestly not a small number of the left, saying we should be above that. That ship sailed a long time ago.

If you are privileged enough to still feel like you are above that, then fucking do something so those of us who are the current targets don’t have to defend ourselves alone.

For neural nets the method matters more. Data would be useful, but at the amount these things get trained on the specific data matters little.

They can be trained on anything, and a diverse enough data set would end up making it function more or less the same as a different but equally diverse set. Assuming publicly available data is in the set, there would also be overlap.

The training data is also by necessity going to be orders of magnitude larger than the model itself. Sharing becomes impractical at a certain point before you even factor in other issues.

They might try, but if their goal was to destabilizing western dominance for LLMs making it completely open source was the best way.

This isn’t like TikTok. They have a server that hosts it, but anyone can take their model and run it and there are going to be a lot of us companies besides the big Ai ones looking at it. Even the big Ai ones will likely try to adapt the stuff they’ve spent to long brute forcing to get improvement.

The thing is, it’s less about the actual model and more about the method. It does not take anywhere close to as many resources to train models like deepseek compared to what companies in the US have been doing. It means that there is no longer going to be just a small group hording the tech and charging absurd amounts for it.

Running the model can be no more taxing than playing a modern video game, except the load is not constant.

The cat is out of the bag. They could theoretically ban the direct models released from the research team, but retrained variants are going to be hard to differentiate from scratch models. And the original model is all over the place and have had people hacking away at it.

Blocking access to their hosted service right now would just be petty, but I do expect that from the current administration…

I only wish in them what they wish on me. Anyone who has an issue with that is enabling fascism.

Deepseek is open source. People have looked it over and modified it a ton. If you are hosting it yourself there is no indication of it being Spyware or whatever.

If you blindly use someone else’s server you are willingly giving up your days to them. Facebook has sold user data to forging companies, yet people like you have a hate boner for china.

I have no love lost for either government, especially at the moment when my rights are being threatened and trampled by my own. Between the two, China has no power to effect my life directly.

Regardless, there probably was some state help behind the development of deepseek, but that isn’t relevant to the discussions of the tech and how western companies have been so stuck in their ways chasing short sighted profits at best or gifting at worst.

Either way, us companies have been missusing LLMs because they want to replace workers with them. That motivation isn’t going to inspire a ton of innovation.

Ah, good old “both sides” argument. Half the reason we are in this mess.

I’ve no love lost for cops, but I also have no sympathy left in me while I wonder if I’m going to be able to keep my job, access healthcare, and generally exist as myself in society without someone decided to attack me. Fuck him, fuck the cop. There are no innocents in this story.

So I’m going to take some catharsis in that one of the people who would likely have murdered me or anyone like me in the future is gone.

After a week of bad news after bad news where I am both fearful for my job and very right to exist in the country, quite frankly, I couldn’t care less about your moral grandstanding. This guy tried to overthrow democracy for a man who is currently doing a speed-run of fascism.

He should still be rotting in prison, instead a criminal was released into the streets by the party of “law and order” for political reasons. And while I have no love lost for cops, this guy getting shot is anything but a tragedy.

Fuck him, fuck Trump, fuck republicans, and fuck anyone who has sympathy for these monsters. These people want me dead for trying to be comfortable in my own skin. I will wish the worst on every last one of them because I know what they want to do to me and I’m tired of people using kid gloves when talking about these people.

I haven’t done much with UI in general, but the one time I thought of making some UI stuff in windows I gave up.

Even modifying an existing .net program someone else made for a feature I wanted was a nightmare.

They are literally instructing people to report “wrong think” and threatening retribution if they don’t.

Either wake the fuck up or admit you are on the side of fascism.

I feel there is an endless number of incompetent chishet white men who would fit the definition.

Sounds like a great use for LLMs.

So, I think that lost will be so long it’s basically “everyone”.

For the average person, even among conservatives, nobody likes their health insurance. Even if they’ve had a good experience with theirs, they know peoe who haven’t.

I guarantee he is projecting how little he works on others. Every accusation these people make is a confession.

And yes, even the “why do you have to make it your entire personality?” is projection. As much of a cult as maggots are, I think the only real difference is trump is too stupid to use the usual double speak politicians were using before and the base that always was out for blood ate it up. He also gave them phrases and symbols to plaster over all their stuff.

Yet they will claim someone having a single pride sticker on their car or flag outside their house is “shoving it in their face” while they drive down the road with a 2 or more flags I their car, along with countless number stickers, and a house covered in at least a half dozen flags and signs.

And no, I’m not exaggerating. I see these trucks (always a shitty truck) and houses regularly where I currently live, and I’m fleeing in a month as I’m queer and one of their targets.

See, for me hunger is an all consuming distraction. There have been very few times I get so hyper focused I forget to eat.

Medication helps, but I still get hungry and crave chocolate.