MudMan

Like I said, we noticed with tomatoes and apples. And overcooked broccoli is still just as gross as it was in the 90s. One of very few foods that makes me gag instantly.

Also, we grow our own vegetables often, it’s not like all my food comes out of a bag. We’d notice big changes, and we did notice the change in cooking styles around it. It’s a generational argument in my family how to cook broccoli, not a change over time.

Yeah, no, it’s not that it isn’t enough time, it’s that I’ve been eating broccoli and beans all this time, I would have noticed.

I mean, we all noticed the tomatoes becoming water balloons, it’s not like it’d be unheard of.

I don’t know, man, this was the 80s and 90s, it’s not that long ago. It still tastes like I remember if you overcook it.

I think that’s where the reputation comes from. Overcooked broccoli is inedible, and I know people who refuse to leave any bite to it at all, which seems insane.

I feel like crunchy, fresh broccoli is a relatively new trend. I found out about it on my own, at my place as a kid it always looked like green boogers and tasted the way you imagine that would.

I guess? My local ISP did offer to set up a mesh, which I did briefly try. Interestingly, they hijack your router settings and after that you had to call them to make config changes, which I never understood but may have been a “save you from yourself” thing for normal users.

The hardware was so bad that it didn’t solve the issue, though, and the inability to change anything on the setup was crippling. I don’t get the feeling that too many people bought that service in the first place.

But if you don’t get good enough wifi you don’t get good enough wifi. Normies will notice that. My frustration ended up being that all the cheapo, built-in solutions without fancy features were noticeably flaky or slow. Security wasn’t even in that picture.

Woof, yeah, now you’re talking.

I mean, once you factor in a phone, a computer, probably some gaming device running updates in the background, you’re thinking at least three devices per person, plus whatever tablets, smart TVs, printers and IoT garbage you have lying around the house. And if you live on an apartment you’re trying to service all of that alongside a bunch of other people trying to do the same.

Honestly, I struggled a lot to get a solid, cost effective mesh to solve the issue. I ended up going back to brute forcing it with a chonker of a router. No idea if that impacts my neighbours and, frankly, at this point it’s every bubble of electromagnetic real estate for themselves.

It’s honestly crazy how much networking you have to do at home these days, particularly if you work from home or throw in a NAS into the mix. I have no idea how the normies manage. Maybe they pay somebody to set it up?

I should hope so. If somebody shook my hand and, while maintaining eye contact, and confessed they’ve been free-willying every pee of their life, hands behand their head, I would have to seriously reconsider our relationship.

Six plus always-on devices is rookie numbers. I’m in the twenties, in a house with a handful of people.

And yes, the router I’m currently using is faster than all my wired devices over wifi, save for the two that pair some form of 2.5/10Gb ports. Also yes, my 1Gbps WAN hits about 900-ish on the downstream, with the ISP guaranteeing at least 800 as a legal requirement. I don’t know if other regions allow ISPs to sell connections that run at 50% of the advertised speed, but… yeah, no, that’s illegal here.

Honestly, full home coverage is the biggest issue I have. If this was a new house I would have wired it as a solution, but as it is, I only got the whole home fully connected with reliable speeds by spending a bunch of money in wireless networking gear.

I don’t know that I claimed it’d take power away from the privileged. If I had to make an educated guess, the idea that “it’s a social construct so we can change it” tends to lead to proposing easy solutions to complicated problems that only work if we all agree they work.

They normally don’t work.

And if the people proposing them are powerful enough to get convinced that all they need to do is force everybody to agree with them regardless it often ends in tears.

Hell, catch me in a good day I’ll tell you changing natural realities is easier than changing social constructs. On par at best, and nature at least won’t argue about it.

Yeah, but that’s my point. There’s a tendency, particularly on STEM people, but also on your average normies, to think that “social constructs” aren’t “real”. This is a very bad take that often causes a lot of problems.

Been agreeing to disagree on this one for like 35 years, I’m good with that.

No, it’s definitely fine and possible. A thriving industry of Youtube reaction channels hinges on that plausibility. It’s just the concept of the OP’s headline implying it’s a generational thing when it definitely isn’t.

I mean, it was genuinely hard to avoid for a while there.

Gen Z, maybe.

Oh, hell, no. It’s not like Seinfeld invented sitcoms, or even modern sitcoms. It’s not the Model T, it’s the Ford Escort. Maybe.

And I’m not saying it’s unfunny, I’m saying it’s a solid 90s sitcom that for some reason people are out here saying is the Model T of sitcoms. I feel like the level of hyperbole puts the burden of proof elsewhere.

And it’s also not a case of it now being standard, because I assure you I’ve had this opinion since it was airing. I very much was of the batch of people who flip-flopped on Family Guy, but I was in the “Seinfeld was mid” camp before anybody ever called anything “mid”.

Because it turns out sociology, anthropology and politics also exist.

If you were in space and looked at Earth you wouldn’t see any people.

EDIT: Crap, someone is going to point out that you can see lights at night, aren’t they? This thread is for pedants and now I’ve started a conversation about biomarkers you can see from orbit.

See, that’s the real issue. I don’t have a problem with acknowledging it’s high concept, ocassionally funny and mostly easy watching.

But everybody insisting it’s endless comedic, best-sitcom-ever brilliance is overrating it. It’s overrated.

Hell, I was even old enough when it was airing to think it was overrated then.

Look, there’s half a billion of us and I’m not gonna reject the possibility that wherever you’re from people say “café negro” for some reason, but yeah, no, it’s “café solo” as far as I’m concerned. You might as well call café con leche “café beige”.

Not next to the word coffee, is how.

Wait, what would the problem be with asking for a café solo?