Ironic

A vote for a third party in presidential is not a vote.

Straw men are so easy, aren’t they?

Dems love to call the voters stupid, but from where I’m sitting, the party machine is the idiot in this equation.

If voters were smart neither groups would be in power

“someone else do it please” is not the mentality to have if you actually want revolution.

It’s easy to just blame the government. When the reality is there is an entire complicit class of voters voting them in

I’m asking you why would you think that is not already integrated in my way, since I think it is implied by what I explained.

Your way is assuming they will question the things with your push statements. What I’m saying is they believe they have solid foundation, and their alternative facts account for most pushes. They’ll bring up reasons. They’ll say “facts”(obviously not real ones, but they have them). They’ll feel they’re knowledge. Those things cause them to effectively counter soft pushes, in my opinion.

I think this could work, but it limits the number of opportunities quite a lot. I see no reason to not try both.

Fair enough that there’s not really a good reason to try both. I feel like a key to it is not being condescending, ehich soft pushes ring as to me.

My method has limited opportunities, but since I primarily utilize it at work, I’m meeting this people frequently

Why would you think it’s without knowing they got intoxicated by fake news?

I really can’t make heads or tails of this sentence.

That’s the point, you think they have wrong ideas, so you push them gently to increase the chance that they will question them by themselves.

I don’t disagree with gentle pushing. I’m saying what your idea is not going to push them at all, nor will it be taken as gentle. Honestly, it makes me wonder if you’ve actually interacted with these sorts.

The best approach that I’ve found is to beat them to the punch of saying things. Basically, make points before they can say stipid shit, they’re very easily manipulated if they haven’t already taken a stance in the conversation

Also going into the points they aren’t as sure on, proving them wrong, has given me a great basis of getting them to admit they’re wrong. It’s all in tone of voice. Not being a dick about it.

No. That’s a poor way to do it. They have very clear ideas on why things are like they are, and for the basis of their racism… they’re wrong ideas, but they’re extremely clear. Arguing without the understanding that they have alternatives facts is wrong

They just bring up information as fact that they’ve put no research into demonstrating.

I know people like this. They’re “nic”. But what that means is they put everyone they know into “one of the good ones” box. So they’re polite to all people they know, basically… It’s interesting and horrifying to see tbh

The only true way to learn languages is pull up yomitan and anki. The most powerful language tools man has to offer

Paying sixty dollars for mid game with as many modern indies exist? I don’t get it

that they are actively working on it, but to say they aren’t trying to fix it is just a lie

Your own statement clearly demonstrates intent yo worsen the system lol

some of the conservative ideas are trying to fix it,

No, they literally are not. You are making things up.

The people in the comments are also not 🤔

the meme is explicitly not talking about those people

Having to work is not slavery, good god. That’s incredibly insulting to those who actually are slaves.

instead of getting food and housing in exchange for labor.

You do get food and housing in exchange for labor, it’s money.

You have options to fight back and get higher wages, like unionization. You can choose where to work which is NOT an illusion of choice, it’s a real one.

Your punishment for refusing to work

There is no form of society that can function without people working.

We are not slaves by quite some stretch, as much as Republicans want that back. “Wage slavery” is a fun term, but it doesn’t actually reflect the variety of options people have available to them that real slaves do not.

As long as we can unionize, the chains cannot bind us.

Is this meme intentionally ignoring the massive progress on lgbt rights in the last decades or no? It’s an overly simplistic representation of a very complicated issue