Why would anyone report a drunk. It is not a crime. So why the hell would anyone listen to whining shits reporting them. The people being reported to have no authority to do anything based on being drunk alone.
What has JKR got to do with UK rules etc. She is just a mouthy idiot that has money. Not an official part of our legal structure.
Cant you.
Lived here most of my life. Never seen anyone critisized for calling a drunk drunk.
Because in genral. Being drunk os not a crime. So why the hell would anyone care how accurate you are being.
Darwin would have to disagree.
Heck a large part our planets science history were considered morons when they proposed ideas.
This guy trully is a moron. But the human races history of collective judgement is far from good.
A guess. But to prevent folks claiming they are not drunk.
The UK has a long history of people thinking they can handle drink. When the law changed (1967), there were loads of news articles. With people claiming it did not affect their ability to drive.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_tqQYmgMQg
So the media likely used the word drink intentionally to indicate. Drinking alcohol is the crime. Not being drunk or not.
Because its 2024. The mentally insane have way more ability to be heard then ever.
Prior to the 2000s they never had much option to talk to each other.
People including me are responding to.
can’t ask people about their personal beliefs directly.
Can’t vs should not is where this differs.
And when that is followed with comparison between facts and belief indicating they are the same. Then folks are correctly calling bullshit.
In the US and most of Europe, asking is Jesus real or who is Jesus is a crime.
Asking is the world spherical is not only legal. It is entirely moral. How effective it is was not expressed in the original comment. Just the suggestion, you cannot ask about geological knowledge.
is the earth round can be construed the same way as, “is Jesus real?”.
No it can’t. One is a proven fact with huge testable evidence. The other is a faith with no testable evidence.
Also one is not a religion and not in anyway protected by law.
Is he a dumbass though. I mean, he was wrong. And obviously so. Given how much simple clear light, experiments can and have questioned his hypothesis.
But honestly, he got someone to gather funds for a trip of a lifetime. Just by being a loudmouth.
Heck, if I thought anyone would take me seriously. I’d be happy to seem stupid to the world for a chance to visit Antarctica. Seems way less hard than actually gaining the qualifications or fiscal clout to be invited.
Yeah, but relative. Those features are smaller relative to the size of earth. Then the imperfections on a pool ball.
Whereas the difference of east west diameter to north-south is much greater. But still unlikely to be noticed by a celestial pool player until the ball starts rolling funny.
And they will. Most will say this guy is a sell out/bullied. Given, they genuinely claim world powers are preventing people going.
It is sorta interesting that the difficulty of getting somewhere. Has a history of creating false stories. If you look at the1400-1600s maps of Africa. Created by Europeans. Humanity has a natural desire to invent the impossible when evidence is not clearly visible.
They seem to ignore how, despite questioning the science behind spherical (ish) earth. They really have no possible explanation for how the universe created their own alternative. Not even a clearly debunkable one.
It’s just like the mythical creatures drawn on the 1500s maps of Africa. It’s more about interesting stories than actual desire to understand.
hence,
“the bar had escaped being blown”
Again I agree on principal.
But this event does not look like that.
This will look to outsiders, including those that voted Brexit in the UK (and a % that did not). Like the EU customs agency is punishing the UK for leaving,
And while that is in no way good for the UK. It is exactly what UK and US right wing nutcases want.
As it allows a pretty believable attack that the EU is no longer a vol entry organization. But one that will actually work to destroy the econ of anyone that leaves once they are a member.
Come on, be honest with yourself. Looking at the right wing’s use of misinformation over the last decade or so. And the number of people believing it. I’m sure you can see how dangerous this can be. Accidental or intentional. It could be used to harm EU trade outside the EU.
Err.
Negro existed for 400 years or more.
Miget came from greak shows fron the 1700s.
Arsehole has a very long history. But you would still be offended it I called you it? And likely object to a pub called the puckered arseholes retreat.
Actually scratch that. Id likely drink there. But yeah my point stands.
Every ofensive thing has a long history. Progress is non exisrant if we dont evolve. And language is one of the things that evolves rapidly.
Its more about why the name exists amd the links it crate. then the age of its creation.
While correct and leaving was stupid.
This is a worldwide competition. And as such has procedures to allow entry from non EU nations.
So it really is the one place where Brexit stupidity should not have left the UK at a disadvantage.
Clearly something went wrong. And if the articles claim that the UK was trying to communicate with EU customs and identify that fault is correct. And no other nation fell into this issue.
It seems like this may not be a one-off issue. But instead, something that increases the burden to UK traders beyond even our own stupidity. To the point where we can’t even compete with other non EU nations within the EU.
sorry blind (visually impaired) does make it hard.
PS, Let’s not be too surprised that a discussion like this. About a long term insult to disabled community members. Brings disabled people to argue against your statement.
The one unique point you raised, I’d like to address.
cutesy diminutive in a romance language.
First of, What does romance language have to do with anything. The term comes from the French for from Rome and is not related to its actual quality or friendliness to lovers.
But you are far from alone in misunderstanding that name. Romance languages can be as insulting and based around a history of human arsehole ness as any other. Heck, given Rome’s rather negative history to any culture differed to them. Some could argue it originated it as a way off life.
And your latest (non I miss replied) comment.
The word blind was not first used to describe vision. It was first used to describe bocking views for privacy, Again derived from the French. Then used for horse sight limitation and windows.
Our visual limitations are named after the tool not the other way around. Hence the community has no issue with blind being an insult. (we do find the fact everyone seems to assume it means zero vision annoying. But not offensive. Hence, the UK government move to visual impaired etc )
Giant and dwarf are similar. But opposite to your ideal expressed above. The terms come from myth and culture.
(most likely due to fossil finds and imagination. Small humanoid ancestors exist in the fossil record. And prehistoric bones, likely lead to many myths about giants and dragons in the less informed past.)
The idea of dwarfism and giantism as a condition was attached to people from that history. Not the other way around. But the community has reason not to consider being named after the fictional being flattering. Although my friend john really did not hate that one and would use it jokingly.
Midget, as you say, comes from romance languages. But you fail to recognise it actually comes from French circuses in the 1700s. As a description of a freak show member. And is very much linked to a number of disgusting abuses that were pretty much the only way these members of the disabled community were able to earn and feed themselves in our hostile past.
So when you name a car this. It is not cutesy. It is insulting to a whole community.
I spose it would be the equivelent of calling me a begger. Because you assume that is the only way I can live. As it was up till the early 1900s.
Then calling your new product beggar curtains rather than blackout. (yeah its a streach as others begged)
As a blind person.
It is a description of a condition not a belittling of it.
And while the UK government has rejected the term. It was not our community that objected.
Midgit is.
Stop trying to ease your own desire to be an arsehole. Youe answers make it clear you only care about your own use of language and gove fick all concern for the feelings of those that object to the use.
Everything about your statments is nothing but gaslighting and bullying those not lake you.
So fuck off ill just block you.
So your original comment about asking people suffering from the condition was crap.
Because the term little people was one requested by themselves. As early as the 1980. As a way to avoid the lack of respect post a time when midget and dwarf in circus freak shows was their only available employment.
You really care nothing for how anyone feels. Other than your loss of the ability to belittle other?
Actually no. My friend John did. Before he died in 1996. From complications related to what at the time was called dwarfism.
Sorry i assumed you were answering a different comment.
As you comment has no relevence to this one.
The fucking article points out the original complaint was also about the car being named after dwarfism. The pub was named after a record breaking car named after little people.
And my comment was you are ignoring the fact that people bullied should not be required to tell the bullies.
Its like saying its OK to hit people smaller then you because they are to scared to hit back.
How easy do you think it is to disagree when everyone around you thinks your acceptable to joke about.
Ah, UK! Vs US English, I think. First off, libel laws in no way require blood alcohol testing to do anything, But I’ll add to this later. And to report may be a US interpretation, but in the UK a reporter does not report. A journalist writes. In UK English, reporting a person means passing info on to an authority figure. Although I will admit, many younger folks seem to mix US English nowadays. So it is getting more confusing.
We also do not tend (as a society) to judge people for getting drunk. Unless they are in charge of something. So newspapers etc rarely have reason to comment on an individual who stumble out of a bar, vomit, etc. Most would only give a shit if he was supposed to be elsewhere. They report on how much it happens as a social issue often.
But you are correct, our libel laws get out of hand. But what must fail to realise, it is not the formation of the law that is the issue. You can indeed indicate a person seems drunk if their actions would be interpreted as drunk. You will notice the word “seems” holds a lot of weight in that sentence. As honestly it should. There are many other reasons a person may exit a pub to vomit and pass out. It would be bad journalism not to consider the possibility of food poisoning or health issues. Honestly, if you see someone pass out, you should be calling for an ambulance drunk or not.
The issue with our laws is more the cost. Because anyone can accuse someone of libel. As It is a civil matter, not criminal. This means you tend to be required to prove yourself innocent once an individual brings the case. This leaves the wealthy able to use the law to silence others. As few are able to afford a defence. The real issue is that libel is a civil offence rather than a crime. A serious complexity in our old system.
Put bluntly, assuming you are in the UK. I am technically able to start a civil case against you for any darn reason I want. Technically, I could accuse you of libel for insulting my nation with your original comment. But to do so, I’d be required to pay all my own costs. As would you until you won. At that time, you can ask the court to assign costs. And in a case like that they likely would (because you would prove I suffered no harm from the claim). But if I am wealthy, you are likely bankrupt and having to back down before we get that far.