What a fucking take lmao

“the blacks and the gays getting systemically purged from society doesn’t matter compared to the real stuff, things that personally impact me”

Just say you’re fine with bigotry as long as white dudes benefit in the way you want, it’s a lot faster and more intellectually honest.

When I lived in rural areas basically the only sign of gay people was the pride merchandise put out by large corporations.

It doesn’t matter in cities that are full of open gay people, but the universal application of these initiatives means it ends up normalizing this stuff in areas that might otherwise not experience it, and for that alone it’s a problem that these kinds of things are going away.

It’s honestly kinda wild to me how many gay folks are so “I hate pride stuff!” these days tbh, but I guess that’s differing perspectives for you.

It’s clear that you care plenty about this stuff, I don’t think all that was meant as a disparaging thing.

But you shouldn’t paint gay rights movements as being a boondoggle inherently tied to liberal policy. It’s (presumably unintentionally) insulting, and definitely paints the picture that you don’t care, or that you’d rather side with someone that didn’t give a shit about us.

Yes.

Being able to be open about your identity is very important to trans people. This is an important element of people’s lives, insofar that even in the face of rejection by traditional society we tend to come out and just face the consequences of it - yes, that includes, for many, rejection by their families, housing and food insecurity, and many other things that are, in effect, downstream of the impacts of lack of acceptance. That’s the very reason why it’s so important to us. We make the conscious decision to seek acceptance knowing it is futile and in most cases results in these things. It’s spitting in the face of trans rights movements to try to insinuate that they should simply pretend to be someone else if it means getting food or shelter.

For most of us, that was already an option that we threw out because the cost was too great. To see people argue on our behalf that we should simply take a backseat so we can eat? Fuck that, we’ll figure it out ourselves if that’s supposed to be the cost.

Gay rights movements generally do not make demands in the form of food.

They do, however, ask for you to actually listen to the demographics you’re trying to talk over if you want to help them.

The fact that you frame “affirming your identity” as such a pathetic offering shows how little you think of LGBT folks in this context tbh.

Look, I get the anger, but keep your sentiment pointed in a way that doesn’t imply that gay people are the enemy soaking up valuable time and resources, or at least listen to us when we say we’re uncomfortable with you painting the symbols of our self-determination as cheap tokens to be eschewed from leftism if it wants to help people.

The rainbows aren’t hurting anyone.

What’s the problem you seem to have with gay rights here? Going out of your way to label that one party is supporting “rainbow ribbons” seems a little iffy considering all the trans people that are about to get systemically targeted by the right-wing that won an election basically on a smear campaign against us.

Trans people voted for Harris, overwhelmingly. The problems were with white guys with a weird stick up their ass trying to convince everyone else not to vote to protect us. Good work I guess, you got what you wanted.

Yeah, it’s genuinely a problem when you just want to not see entire instances based on the userbase they culminate. I wish blocking instances would actually block the users associated with it, but alas.

I’ve taken to blocking everyone @lemmy.ml on sight since every time I see them it’s some vitriolic rant about how trans people are class traitors or some other weird shit I don’t wanna see, but it is a bit of extra effort and annoyance each time a new one pops up.

…dude you’re writing off a genocide against me with “some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make” shit

You are actively advocating for people to be complicit in not preventing another genocide.

I was tentatively optimistic about Starmer on some of those fronts after writing him off as a hack but yeah, recently he ranted about how trans women shouldn’t be allowed in bathrooms so…the grey area is gone, he just wants his party to be the Tories but painted a different color.

…my guy, Trump wants me fired from my job and then summarily shot. Vote for the guy that doesn’t want that if you care, please.

Literally nobody is performing gender-affirming surgery on minors. It’s difficult enough to get as an adult lmao