• SSJMarx@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    I did say “90%”, not “100%”

    But to be clear, the conflict between America and Japan was a clash between two expanding empires. We didn’t fight Japan because of an outpouring of empathy for the Koreans and Chinese.

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      4 months ago

      Similar can be said of a number of our enemies today though, especially Russia. This isn’t to say that we support the Ukrainians purely based on empathy or that the US isn’t still an exploitative power, but just deciding that anyone that doesn’t like the west must be good will inevitably lead one to bad conclusions, because no country does literally everything wrong, and because oftentimes, the enemy of your enemy is just another enemy who’s interests happen to be misaligned with the first one.

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        4 months ago

        just deciding that anyone that doesn’t like the west must be good

        Assuming you’re talking about the average tankie, this isn’t the position they hold. Their argument is “America is the greater evil, therefore supporting America’s enemies is the lesser evil, even if those enemies aren’t good themselves.” Russia is about as rabidly anticommunist as America is these days, but most communists around the world support Russia against America because America is very clearly the greater evil. The whole conflict in Ukraine wouldn’t have started in the first place if western powers didn’t back a color revolution to replace the Russian-leaning president of Ukraine with a Europe-leaning-and-also-fascist one.

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            4 months ago

            lmao the mods remove shit you can find on wikipedia as “misinformation”, not beating the fascism allegations .world

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      4 months ago

      How about as this meme displays, Ukraine and Uyghurs. Still 90%?

      Not stoning gay people to death. Still 90%?

      Allowing people to elect their leaders by voting in a democracy. Still 90%?

      Giving women the same rights as men (even allowing them to drive!). Still 90%?

      Freedom of press? Freedom of association? Freedom of speech? Still 90%?