It’s a “no true scotsman” but those aren’t leftists. Leftists don’t praise and try to emulate autocrats. Those are people pretending to be leftists who are trying to co-opt, radicalize, or confuse leftists.
Leftism by definition is opposed to authoritarians.
The modern definition of leftism is socialism and co. And socialism is inherently authoritarian.
Explain the absolute takes on the Russian war by Jeremy Corbin and Noam Chomsky. They have encouraged Ukraine to surrender, which is tacit approval of Russia’s invasion by giving Russia everything that they ever asked for
Explain Hassan shilling for Hamas
They have encouraged Ukraine to surrender,
Show me where Corbyn and Chomsky has said this.
https://twitter.com/achkhikvadze/status/1786879477919649927
He is just saying Ukraine can’t win so it has to accept Russia’s terms (which are basically surrendering its sovereignty)
He is just saying Ukraine can’t win
I guess it’s just a pure coincidence that it’s now perfectly clear that Ukraine can’t win, eh?
Ukraine actually can’t lose as long as it has the support of the free world
Stalin would disagree
You mean like Hamas? Leftists have this oppression totempole, and anyone being “oppressed” are automatically good.
You don’t have to be “good” to deserve human rights.
Sure. But at the same time, if you attempt to commit genocide, porportional self defense is fair. The question becomes what is porportional.
You yourself just cut a check for Hamas to indiscriminately slaughter 29k israelis as “proportional self defense” for how far in the red that ledger is over Oct 7th.
Considering they shot a rocket at a hospital and blamed the IDF, I wouldnt be surprised if we’re already there. Impossible to know for sure though
Proportional self-defense probably ended before November, though, when the Palestinian civilian death toll hopped up to over triple the Israeli civilian death toll from the Hamas attack.
Well, from that single attack on Oct 7th, but thats just one attack out of many. Its unclear just how many have been killed, and by who.
Not really. Even the highest estimates of Israeli casualties for the entire year don’t come close.
Maybe? Hamas clearly gives zero shits about civilians and theres so much propaganda coming out, I wouldnt be surprised to find out Hamas has a higher body count.
Hell, I wouldnt put it past Hamas to delibritly murder Gaza civilians in order to blame the IDF. Hell, didnt they hit a hospital with a rocket?
Some are pretending to be leftists. But some just have a Manichean view of the world that they can’t shake. Some people change labels when they convert from fundamentalist religion or blind nationalism, but don’t change the framework of their views.
No shit, I have seen people outright denying Houthi atrocities because “They wouldn’t do something like that!”
Because the Houthis are opposed to The Great Satan™, they’re automatically rewritten in these people’s minds to be at least acceptable in every facet of their existence.
Some are pretending to be leftists.
Says the liberal pretending to be a leftist.
When are people on both the right and left going to learn. There is no one in the middle east who’s values actually align with yours. So stop supporting a side and lets get our selves completely out of not our business.
Though genocide is our business so that’s the one time we should take a side.
But in everything else where we’ve taken a side it has been a mistake. Folk on all sides of the middle east project to the west an image they hope will garner sympathy in hopes we will fight wars for them and they can avoid fighting their own wars. “Genuineness” is a uniquely western thing to see as a positive value. Absolutely no culture in the middle east values presenting an honest image of themselves to us. The idea of that being socially positive or necessary for their own sense of ethics is literally foreign to them. I’m not trying to single out Muslim countries or Israel. What I’m saying is we in the west do in fact have values that are particular to us, and we need to stop imagining those values on others. That’s why the whole of the middle east is like that. Because they aren’t us.
Then the other thing we should understand is that all sides employ what are basically professional communicators who study our culture and use what they understand of it to manipulate us. So we get dragged into problems that aren’t ours and expose ourselves to actual security threats as a result.
October 7 has been a full mask off event. Never in my life did I think I would see university students chanting in the streets for Hamas. A genocidal theocratic terrorist organisation which would sooner murder everyone protesting for them than give women and minorities rights. Horseshoe Theory isn’t a theory anymore. It’s real and it’s here.
