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      Einstein, Tucholsky, Gandhi and Jesus all seem to be very naive blokes indeed.

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      Yeah, everyone knows you can only prevent war by fighting in wars. War is peace.

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    Largely, we’ve not been defending ourselves, but rather, maintaining our interests and investments. Who wants to stand behind that other than the misinformed?

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      And now I’m hearing people say there’s no risk in the West attacking Russia because “their nukes haven’t been maintained.”

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        It would have to be global otherwise someone realizes “hey I’m the only one with an army” and marches it into whatever they claim as theirs.

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          I would suggest that just people in just a handful of countries doing it would be enough. Unfortunately, those handful are the ones causing all the trouble in the world right now.

  • Imagine if the World stopped fighting at the end of WWII and the U.S. stopped making any other atomic weapons. Imagine a global “Peace Treaty”.

    Imagine if each country spent their military $$ on water, food, housing, and free medical care for their citizens.

    Fuck them all!!

    The World could’ve been an amazing village of humans living together as friends and have the freedom to roam the globe without the need for a passport.

    One World!

    Fuck every military leader and/or political leader that has screwed over the people of the World.

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      And you want people to vote for the guy currently supplying and giving cover to a genocidal regime…

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        Where did you see him asking people to vote for anyone? I’m tired of this no need to bring this shit into every conversation, lots of people on here don’t even live in the U.S. Fuck off

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          Oh? It’s almost like I was talking directly to him about something he knows about. Like that time he decided to call me a moron because I want Biden to stop supporting weapons to Israel. Then he posts… This.

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      Yeah but… That is kind of the problem.

      Imagine that the US goes full hippie and dismantles its entire military, sending all the money to schools and hospitals and infrastructure and its economy. Fixes poverty, free healthcare, yay!

      Pardon my French, but China and Russia would ass duck it into oblivion within a week. THAT is why we can’t have nice things. As long as there are dictators out there, we will continue to need armies, unfortunately.

      Russia has shown that depending on each other with economies doesn’t work to keep the peace, all you need is a greedy bastard who is happy to throw hundreds of thousands of innocent lives into the meat grinder, happy to ruin his countries economy, all so he can play the next tzar.

      So like it or no, we NEED armies and given the choice of being ruled by the US or China or Russia, I’ll choose the US a hundred times over, as idnlike to stay out of punishment camps for the rest of my life.

      • I’m very aware the World won’t play nice. That’s why my scenario was dependent on an impossible situation. That sucks!

        Humans suck.

        Of course there are countless nice people that love others, wish kindness, and happiness.

        Unfortunately, the masses have not been able to control the powers that have driven the World in a combative and globally destructive feedback loop. The combination of violence and climate disaster will mean the extinction of humanity much, much sooner than most believe.

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          We’ve been in these situations before, albeit in smaller scale, the formula still works the same. And it never ends up well for the “ruling class”. It’ll probably take a lot of fuckery before the world unites in the class struggle, but when that happens we’ll know what to do. Just look at what human nature does in natural disasters - we collaborate, cooperate, and rebuild. We will do the same in the future.