I find having an operating system is bloat.
Magnetised needle and a steady hand is all you need.
M-x butterfly
incostimizible
They tried to fix it, but gnome didn’t allow to customize the comment
- KDE is the best if you want customize without editing yaml or xml or you just new to Linux
- XFCE, LXDE, MATE, & CINNAMON are the best if you have very old system but still want to have some customization.
- I3, SWAY, & OPENBOX are the best if you feel need little bit challenge to customize
- NO GUI (CLI) is the best if you feel DE is bloat or systemd is bloat or wanna feel like Hollywood movie hackers
I think latly, especially in plasma 6, KDE got as viable on old machines as XFCE and surly mint and cinnamon.
Ever since KDE made their software more modular with Plasma 5 / Frameworks 5, a Plasma session can be cut down by a lot. Personally, I don’t think it matters much because as soon as you browse the web, the RAM demands of the web browser dwarf that of even a fully decked out desktop anyway, but the options are there – perhaps for certain use cases that don’t involve web browsing.
I brought my KDE idle RAM usage down to 500MB just by using the GUI options that come with it. That’s about the same amount a default Xfce or LXQt needs.
Damn can you list some of the options you remember changing?
I disabled all animations, the baloo file indexing and all services that start automatically at login.
I also installed not the full KDE Suite but just Plasma Desktop and then uninstalled all parts I don’t need.
So technically, I’m not running KDE but Plasma. From the KDE application Suite I use Dolphin, Konsole, the archiver, the image viewer, the PDF viewer and the system settings tool.Yes baloo is a hog. Note that the background services systemsettings page will be hidden in the future but accessible from the global search.
Do you think installing extensions is really that difficult on Gnome?
After decades of using different window managers, fixing broken configs with major updates, fretting about multi monitor config etc I started using GNOME. It might not look as sleek but I’m a lot more productive now.
In the end I’m just glad we have so many choices.
I feel this, Gnome and it’s opinionated workflow just “gets out of the way” in my experience
the majority of people don’t actually want choices though.
If they don’t want to choose, that’s fine by me. But why tf they didn’t want choice? They could just stick to whatever is the default and let others who wanted different choice have their way.
Them using gnome doesn’t stop you from using whatever you want actually.
Right now it’s pretty much how you want it to be.
Cinnamon is neat. That’s it
What are the icons for?
I know gnome, and the 3 that have their name in the logo (xfce, sway, tty).
I’m going back to Slackware. Can’t keep up with this shit any more.
Hells yes, Alacritty is my jam
The one true just works terminal emulator. All of the features you need, none of the features you don’t. Perfection!
Alacritty + Nushell is bae
imagine being so uncustomizable that you’re customizable
Isn’t really a good argument, even though this is silly
Extensions are not equivalent to native customization, and both have pros and cons. On one hand, extensions provide a variety of features that can be added specific to people’s likings, but on the other hand, there are chances of incompatibility (in gnome shells for example) and delayed maintenance from developers (which results in having to wait for them to finish the work when dependency updates)
incostomizable
Stay in school, kids.
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And maybe learn other words.
Imagine not even noticing repetition being used deliberately…
Can someone fill me in about “Hyprland being banned from FreeDesktop”?
surprise surprise: terminally online risers with 4chan lvl takes export their toxicity to everything they touch. thus get rightly hammered
https://drewdevault.com/2024/04/09/2024-04-09-FDO-conduct-enforcement.html
It’s just a young adult miss managing their community as they learn how to run a big project for the first time.
We all made asses out of our selves when we were young and most of us have outgrown it.
Vaxry comes off as butt hurt.
wait hyprland is banned from freedesktop? what???
The maintainer is banned - context
Don’t know who this person is but I have a hard time taking him seriously calling people children while reading out the emails like I high schooler dishing gossip and dismissing transphobic moderators as a “whoops”
the logo is literally a noose
… Not a drop of water?
Imagine not playing games
You still play games?
yes
Imagine having rootkits and APTs on your system, just to play some overpriced games, which you are later, remotely stopped from playing.
why overpriced? I always pirate them but sadly pirated versions only work on Windows.
I’d rather give my time and money to a game that I find worth paying for rather than pirating, but you do you.
Also, pirated games, like any other Windows program, work on Wine. Maybe not all, but not all Windows software work on Wine anyway.Pirated versions totally work on Linux. I do quite a bit of pirating.
It just takes a bit more effort to manage, but I use Lutris for my pirated titles.
I’ve seen pirated games distributed for linux as an enormous shell script containing a 30GB binary blob that bundles the game along with wine. If it’s stupid and it works, it’s not stupid…
Imagine NOT being banned from FreeDesktop
Honestly the lack of customizability is the least of my worries with Gnome.
Why the FUCK doesn’t it have a SYSTEM TRAY without an extension?
Like it’s one thing to be minimalistic and opinionated.
It’s another thing entirely to opt out of basic system functionality that has been part of every OS since 1997. Like fuck.
Edit: Also how fun that this is how I find out Hyprland is cooked due to internet drama and 4chan bullshit.
Hyprland’s what?
“Is cooked”, meaning “Is in trouble” or “Is in some shit”.
Hyprland’s dev got themselves into some internet fight because they associated themselves with a transphobe and Freedesktop people decided this was enough.
You’d imagine freeDesktop devs to be more mature about something like that compared to a young adult, and end up being wrong and unsurprised
Eh, I’ll be honest. Having read the posts here (from both Vaxry AND Freedesktop) about the subject:
It does seem like Vaxry is just a well-meaning software dev caught up in shit he didn’t ask for. He wasn’t the person who made the comment for one thing.
But also I kinda get Freedesktop’s angle here, being a queer person myself. I’ve seen communities I previously cared about get ship-of-theseused into places that are deeply unwelcoming to people like me due to brushing off this kind of ‘joke’. You give the -phobes an inch they WILL take the entire road.
In my opinion everyone needs to be very private online, so i cant really relate.
But kinda see what you mean
[tongue click]
In another universe where things are entirely different, I might agree to the ‘people should be very private online’. Fuck, I’d even extend it to real life?
But we don’t live in that other universe, and in the universe we currently live, obnoxious behaviour from The Straights ™ isn’t considered obnoxious by 90% of society, whereas even the smallest bit of expression from a GSM person is seen as extravagant and explicit. Straight people can take advantage of the standard of ‘people should be private’ because their expression isn’t considered unprivate by most and the opposite isn’t true for us.
So $&*# that. I’ll be as loudly gay as I can be.
…Okay?
As I understand, the person who ultimately made the decision to ban Vaxry was also on a massive power trip.
What do you need a system tray for? It has a drop-down control center on the top-right. That mirrors most of the functionality from a system tray that I would need.
This kind of attitude is precisely what rubs me the wrong way about gnome.
Like nevermind customization. I care about it because I am literally this. But most people just want their OS to work and get out of the way so they can get to doing work or playing games or looking at hentai or whatever it is their do with their computer and I get and respect that.
It is true that Gnome’s control center can do a lot of things. All the integrated system functionality is there, as is the stuff for applications that are made FOR Gnome.
But the thing is. A lot of programmes that aren’t Gnome-centered, that are DE-agnostic or even System-Agnostic? They expect a system tray, because every OS has had something like it since 1997, and implement functionality expecting it to be there, with some configurations and such only being accessible through the tray icon. And Gnome’s general attitude to third party applications expecting something to be there is “fuck off, we don’t care, the third party application should adapt to how we do things, but if you REALLY need this thing we decided is worthless, you can install this janky third party extension to get it I guess”.
My choice for ‘gets out of the way’ would be something like Cinnamon. In my experience, Gnome does the opposite of getting out of the way, as a lot of basic functionality requires third party stuff. So in order to get things to work, if they aren’t specifically part of the Gnome ecossystem, you’ll have to spend time tinkering, and it’s not ‘tinkering for fun because I like coonfing’, it’s ‘tinkering out of necessity to get this thing to work properly’ which is not nice.
