• cley_faye@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    With both whatever-apple-is-doing and Android’s whatever-it-is-called-that-prevent-factory-reset when you don’t have access to the account on the device, I don’t see how people still buy “shady” phones and tablets.

    Last time I borrowed a relative’s phone to run an experiment, I had to contact them to “unlock” the phone after a factory reset before being able to do anything because I didn’t remove the account before. Unless people go out of their way to make their phone “stealable”, that is.

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      8 months ago

      I mean, if you can factory reset a phone to strip the need for authentication, that seems like kind of a bad thing, no?

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        8 months ago

        You can factory reset it, but not really. On first boot, the phone requires a network connection; you can’t skip setting up wifi if there is no cellular internet available. And it will ask you to authenticate the google account it expect before even starting the “real” setup process. As a matter of fact, once you authenticate with google, it does start again, ask again for wifi and will not have the account setup at all, as you would expect after a factory reset.

        So, while you can “factory reset”, the phone still needs the previously registered google account to start. There’s probably some phone that gives more leniency, but I was not able to circumvent that using adb (the device being locked, and impossible to unlock without accessing the menu, impossible to access without starting in the first place…)

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          8 months ago

          I have seen several tutorials to skip this step on xiaomi phones through fastboot.

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            8 months ago

            If the phone had is bootloader unlocked, sure. Otherwise, it won’t accept the commands. My mistake was on a Xiaomi Mi A2.

            The people that designed this feature are not that oblivious.

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    8 months ago

    If it was a Pixel 2 or a 4a I’m keeping it, that phone was peak modern smartphone before everything went downhill with no rear fingerprint scanner and fixed focus selfie cams

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      8 months ago

      I have a 4a 5G variant and I can’t stand how the “stock” experience manages to be worse than on my old Samsung :-/ The pics are great tho

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          8 months ago

          I was thinking about it ever since Louis Rossmann showcased it. But as he had problems using his banking app and some other stuff, I decided it wouldn’t be worth the hassel. Also, many people wrote that with Graphene you lose a lot of the fancy camera shenanigans that Google made. And the camera was one of the more important points in getting this phone.

          • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            8 months ago

            There’s a very detailed article about GrapheneOS banking app compatibility where you can check if your bank’s app works on Graphene: https://github.com/PrivSec-dev/banking-apps-compat-report/

            Regarding the camera: Yes, you lost some quality with the default GrapheneOS camera app. But you can easily install the official Google camera app from the Play store (or anonymously through Aurora) to get full quality. You don’t even need Google play services installed for that to work, and you can revoke it’s network access, so it’s completely offline and private. I use the Google camera app all the time, it works flawlessly.

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      8 months ago

      Don’t have a 4a, but big fan of my 5a with Graphene! The last one with both usb-c AND a headphone jack! It has been my phone of choice since my iPhone SE broke, and it is still my main driver.

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      8 months ago

      I still use Pixel 4 and the fabric case is so great to the touch, too bad the new ones don’t have them.